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Dale Carnegie -> Jim Rohn -> Tony Robbins -> [all hacks now]
by ransom1538 4mo ago
Dale Carnegie -> Jim Rohn -> Tony Robbins -> [all hacks now]
- curuinor 4mo agothe man leveraged the fact that his name was the same as Andrew Carnegie (having no relation) to launch a publishing empire. it was hacks from the beginning
- xKingfisher 4mo agoEven worse he changed his name from Carnagey, presumably to deliberately cause confusion.
- MengerSponge 4mo agoHighly recommend "If Books Could Kill" https://bsky.app/profile/ifbookspod.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/ifbookspod.bsky.social It really is all the same book.
- sharadov 4mo agoAll the writers that I love to hate - hariri, gladwell! Will give it a listen
- sanswork 4mo agoI wanted to love it since despite being a self help reader I can definitely see a lot of the bad/dangerous advice given all over the place but I often found them really stretching to make stuff negative and being very smug about it which just made it the same issue as the source material. Especially annoying since in most cases there were really solidly valid negatives to go after in the books. It's very much a lets build a straw man then tear it down podcast.
- sharadov 4mo agoI listened to a couple episodes and concur, the overt-criticality and smugness was off putting.
- ctoa 4mo agoThe very first thing I did when coming to this thread was search for if someone had already mentioned "one book theory". My favorite episodes of IBCK are mostly the self-help trash.
- jpfromlondon 4mo ago[dead]
- HatchedLake721 4mo agoWhy is Tony Robbins a hack?
- anitil 4mo agoI think calling these people 'hacks' is not quite the right word. They're very good at what they do, it's just a lot of people don't like or don't value what they do. I actually have a fair bit of respect for their craft (the ability to draw attention and turn that attention in to customers) even if I feel like what they're selling is fake, or fake-adjacent
- adamtaylor_13 4mo agoIt is wild to me that people consider Dale Carnegie and Tony Robbins in the same boat. "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie completely changed how I communicate with people, for the better. For nerds (like me) who think data and statistics are the way to persuade people, you're doing yourself a disservice by ignoring the truth. Lots of people think sales are icky, but much of life is influenced by your ability to persuade and sell, even yourself, to others.
- tiahura 4mo agoRobbins is much more an unintentional heir to Sartre (ducks) than Carnegie.
- dzonga 4mo agopeople in tech i.e engineers discount sales - but damn the book by Caldini - Influence & Jim Rohn In terms of sales training - help a lot.