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If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unf
by LordDragonfang 4mo ago
If you mean "set up an equivalent service" under your own domain, that's both less private and more likely to be blocked; there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains.
- weird-eye-issue 4mo agoAre you sure you don’t have this backwards? Some B2B websites only accept sign-ups from domains not associated with Gmail, Yahoo, and similar providers.
- wartijn_ 4mo agoAre there really? I don't think I've ever encountered such a service in all the years I've been using an email address under my own domain. And blocking every email address that's not from a big provider means blocking basically everyone who tries to sign up with their company email, which might not be great for business.
- xigoi 4mo agoI recently tried signing up for DeepSeek using my custom-domain e-mail address and the website said the domain is “not supported”.
- BiteCode_dev 4mo agoYes, espacially exotic tld. I have a ".email" domain name, and I get 2 to 3 instances a year of either rejected forms, or sneakier, just confirmation email that never come until I use a .com address.
- threeio 4mo agoI have a 3 character .com as my primary email... it gets rejected more often than I'd like... including at my bank :) I've got a longer more normal domain that I alias, but it annoys me none the less.
- gerdesj 4mo agoHave you got this lot sorted out: MX->A->PTR->A->MX SPF DKIM DMARC mta-sts - DNS and webpage Also your IPs must be squeaky bum clean, ideally for several years. DNSSEC might help too. In the UK getting as far as DKIM is usually enough (plus clean IPs, even FTTC connections will work if static).
- lukeify 4mo agoWithin the last month both Mapbox and Etsy blocked my attempts to signup using a Proton Mail alias. How many services do you sign up for in recent years, on average? The practice is becoming incredibly common and more than likely you're just grandfathered in.
- jbxntuehineoh 4mo agoare you sure they're not just blacklisting protonmail vs. whitelisting known providers? ime a lot of sites block "temporary" or "anonymous" email providers
- ranger_danger 4mo agoEtsy blocks my entire ISP (I know because my IP rotates almost daily) so I cannot even view their site at all, it just gives me a "you are blocked" page.
- dadadad100 4mo agoCamel camel camel wouldn’t send notifications to my hidden email. Works fine for my regular vanity domain.
- kay_o 4mo agoin asia it is frequent that email domain is a dropdown not a type in
- gerdesj 4mo agoAsia is huge. Please be more explicit (if you can).
- ranger_danger 4mo agoI have seen sites in both Japan and China limit signups to not only mobile-only provider-specific email domains, but also IP block everything but domestic mobile traffic as well. Most of those services (mixi was one in particular I remember doing this) stopped this practice close to 20 years ago though, but some still remain. I think it was partly due to the "Galapagos phone" era of pre-smartphones, where each carrier used slightly different mobile web standards (think WAP and custom emoji). Here is a current help page for Mitsubishi UFJ bank that lists approved domains for both desktop and mobile use: https://faq.cr.mufg.jp/mufgcard/detail?id=4402 https://faq.cr.mufg.jp/mufgcard/detail?id=4402 Here is a user complaining (with screenshot) that the mail magazine for tabelog only supports mobile provider email domains: https://king.mineo.jp/reports/13368 https://king.mineo.jp/reports/13368 Another recent one is the login page for gravity.place has a dropdown for country codes (for mobile login) with only 6 options.
- kay_o 4mo agoChina, Japan ish are where I have seen it the most. Weibo, Sina you get "Failed registration (mail not supported)" if you enter non-major provider. In china nearly everyone is using qq, 163, 126, sina. Probably >99%
- vitally3643 4mo agoI've been running my own mailserver on a firstnamelastname.com domain for nearly 15 years. As far as I can tell, nobody blocks it. Google sometimes rejects emails where the from address doesn't match the real sending address, which is fair. I guess the first couple of years were rocky, I hadn't figured out DKIM and SPF and all the other blood rituals yet. Back then I got blocked by Steam and banks. But ever since I set up the correct security it's been fine. Been my primary email for a long long time. All my online accounts are tied to it. Incidentally, I also have free and unlimited aliases. But I don't usually bother because I have a rule to route all messages to unknown addresses into a special folder. I can give out any random address at my domain and it will always make it back to me. So much more convenient than logging into the website to generate an alias.
- bb88 4mo agoI did that too years ago, but the management of it was kind of annoying. DKIM was just getting introduced when I stopped using it. SPF had controversy. I understand both of those are awesome now. The biggest issue was if your ip address got listed in a RBL (Realtime Blackhole List), and then nobody would talk to you. Some were easy to get off, others were permanent blocks, and I found those to be constantly interfering with the delivery of mail. At least the rejection would usually tell you which RBL blocked you.
- janc_ 4mo agoMost RBLs are scams. No competent mail admin uses them to block mail ever.
- rufo 4mo ago…lots of major mail services do? https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060591413-Spam-filtering#process https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060591413-Spa... https://senders.yahooinc.com/smtp-error-codes/ https://senders.yahooinc.com/smtp-error-codes/ https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/email-errors https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/email-errors
- ranger_danger 4mo agohttps://sys.4chan.org/signin https://sys.4chan.org/signin has a short list of approved email domains: > Allowed domains are: gmail.com, hotmail.com, yahoo.com, proton.me, protonmail.com, outlook.com, live.com, icloud.com, yandex.com, tutanota.com, tutamail.com, tuta.io
- port11 4mo agoI know a few. Heck, I’ve worked at such a place, we strictly checked MX records to make sure the email would be reachable, and catch-alls usually wouldn’t pass validation. (I’m not saying we should have been doing that, but the company was in insurance and wanted to be extra extra sure.)
- Hnrobert42 4mo agoNah. I have hosted my domain for 17 years on google and then fastmail. The hosting is harder than private relay, although not too hard. But I have only had maybe 3 services ever reject my domain, and those were because the domain contains a number.
- lukeify 4mo agoWithin the space of 2 weeks I had both Etsy and Mapbox block signups with Proton Mail aliases. The practice is rapidly becoming more common.
- bigstrat2003 4mo agoBlocking signups from proton.me is not the same thing as only allowing signups from the big mail providers.
- lukeify 4mo agoGreat, so all I need to do is to authoritatively check each plausible combination of domains that _might_ work and rule each of them out before I can make my claim, according to you? What a load of pedantry.
- snark42 4mo agoI've had some reject my e-mail address because it contains their company name. REI was one (ie it wouldn't allow rei@domain.com but would accept reicoop@domain.com)
- js2 4mo agoI was just able to create an account using `rei@<mydomain>` on rei.com w/o any issues. Now, figuring out how to delete the account is another matter entirely...
- snark42 4mo agoCool, they probably changed it, this was years ago. I've had similar issues with other companies, REI is just the only one I can I really recall right now.
- theshackleford 4mo agoI mean none of this is accurate, but sure.
- thfuran 4mo ago>there are a lot of services which, unfortunately, only allow sign-ups from big, well-known domains. I have never encountered one.
- ocdtrekkie 4mo agoArs Technica is one you can test I believe. I think I had to register with Gmail and put in a support ticket to ask them to change it to my real email. I use Fastmail, not a selfhosted setup or anything, some services absolutely have a domain allowlist for email signup.
- kodt 4mo agoPopular gaming forums NeoGaf and Resetera only allow signups from paid email accounts. All free and temporary email providers are banned to discourage trolls / forum raids / alt accounts.
- stavros 4mo agoI've had my own domain for email for twenty years or so now, and I've encountered maybe one signup form that didn't accept it. What you're saying is definitely not true, and I would highly recommend using your own domain for email (preferably with Fastmail, it's fantastic).
- jbverschoor 4mo agoLess private, but the most common case is actually anti-harassment. Plenty of providers, but perhaps Apple needs to be forced to open up hide-my-email-providers for others. Only the EU is capable of doing such thing
- bigstrat2003 4mo agoI have had my own domain for mail for 10 years. I have yet to ever see a service which didn't let me sign up with it. I'm willing to believe that such services exist, but I dispute the claim that there are a lot of them.