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How did grok 'fail' ? This is news to me.

XorNot 4mo ago
My company has Claude. People were excited to use Claude. Absolutely no one, despite the option, considered a grok model.
- ballon_monkey 4mo ago
  "my company doesn't use it so no one uses it" - typical out of touch HN commenter.
  - mthoms 4mo ago
    Given that Grok is selling all of the compute capacity from its flagship data centre out to a direct competitor sorta speaks for itself. Does it mean they are out of the race? I have no idea, but things don't look great. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986
    - rtehfm 4mo ago
      They're only selling compute from Colossus 1.
      - scheme271 4mo ago
        There's a HN article and discussion about Anthropic expanding to use Colossus 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 I think it's fairly clear that grok isn't using as much compute as expected.
  - bjelkeman-again 4mo ago
    Seriously though. I haven’t heard anyone use Grok in software engineering context. Maybe I live under a rock.
    - youre-wrong3 4mo ago
      There are more uses to AI than just software engineering…
      - jerojero 4mo ago
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      - pqtyw 4mo ago
        So far seems like none of those use cases have generated meaningful income streams? The consumer/non-developer market is mostly dominated by OpenAI and Google anyway...
- Saline9515 4mo ago
  For a lot of people, Grok is the first AI they got to use through Twitter. Grok does get quite a lot of usage, and isn't out of the game - coding tools aren't the only use case for AI.
  - bdangubic 4mo ago
    this is like saying people still use google glass. sure, some people might but AI-wise it is as dead of a product as it gets
    - Saline9515 4mo ago
      Google glass has been discontinued? Besides, many people use it on Twitter everyday. Usage is not limited to what you can see on the Openrouter dashboard.
      - bdangubic 4mo ago
        many people use copilot inside outlook to auto-complete their sentences as well :)
        Saline9515 4mo ago
        Meaning that Copilot is actually a success, even if you don't like it ;-)
        pqtyw 4mo ago
        Because Microsoft managed to sell it to a huge number of companies, not directly because people are using it. Hardly anyone is paying for Grok.
        Saline9515 4mo ago
        US government is paying for Grok to help it send bombs on Iranians. That's a use case.
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hackermanai 4mo ago
At least it didn't succeed yet. They should drop a model somewhere, beating something else in some use case, and maybe people would use.
pqtyw 4mo ago
By not succeeding? It's an also ran, a closed proprietary model which is behind Anthropic, OpenAI, Google and a a bunch of Chinese companies, how do you make money with a produce like that? (besides the absurd IPO of course...)

My company has Claude. People were excited to use Claude. Absolutely no one, despite the option, considered a grok model.

ballon_monkey 4mo ago
"my company doesn't use it so no one uses it" - typical out of touch HN commenter.
- mthoms 4mo ago
  Given that Grok is selling all of the compute capacity from its flagship data centre out to a direct competitor sorta speaks for itself. Does it mean they are out of the race? I have no idea, but things don't look great. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986
  - rtehfm 4mo ago
    They're only selling compute from Colossus 1.
    - scheme271 4mo ago
      There's a HN article and discussion about Anthropic expanding to use Colossus 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 I think it's fairly clear that grok isn't using as much compute as expected.
- bjelkeman-again 4mo ago
  Seriously though. I haven’t heard anyone use Grok in software engineering context. Maybe I live under a rock.
  - youre-wrong3 4mo ago
    There are more uses to AI than just software engineering…
    - jerojero 4mo ago
      [dead]
    - pqtyw 4mo ago
      So far seems like none of those use cases have generated meaningful income streams? The consumer/non-developer market is mostly dominated by OpenAI and Google anyway...
Saline9515 4mo ago
For a lot of people, Grok is the first AI they got to use through Twitter. Grok does get quite a lot of usage, and isn't out of the game - coding tools aren't the only use case for AI.
- bdangubic 4mo ago
  this is like saying people still use google glass. sure, some people might but AI-wise it is as dead of a product as it gets
  - Saline9515 4mo ago
    Google glass has been discontinued? Besides, many people use it on Twitter everyday. Usage is not limited to what you can see on the Openrouter dashboard.
    - bdangubic 4mo ago
      many people use copilot inside outlook to auto-complete their sentences as well :)
      - Saline9515 4mo ago
        Meaning that Copilot is actually a success, even if you don't like it ;-)
        pqtyw 4mo ago
        Because Microsoft managed to sell it to a huge number of companies, not directly because people are using it. Hardly anyone is paying for Grok.
        Saline9515 4mo ago
        US government is paying for Grok to help it send bombs on Iranians. That's a use case.
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hackermanai 4mo ago

At least it didn't succeed yet. They should drop a model somewhere, beating something else in some use case, and maybe people would use.

pqtyw 4mo ago

By not succeeding? It's an also ran, a closed proprietary model which is behind Anthropic, OpenAI, Google and a a bunch of Chinese companies, how do you make money with a produce like that? (besides the absurd IPO of course...)