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> unlimited access to compute Yes because Grok failed and they now have "unlimited" compute they can sell to other. I mean you are right that if they did X, Y
by pqtyw 4mo ago
> unlimited access to compute
Yes because Grok failed and they now have "unlimited" compute they can sell to other. I mean you are right that if they did X, Y and Z they could be very successful but their is no indication that might happen. In any meaningfully way seems like Cursor has peaked a while ago.
> An enterprise
Well either they are the type of companies which just buys whatever Microsoft is selling OR they let their developers to mostly pick what they feel is the best tool for the job on their won. I don't think there is that much in between (and its a cutthroat market e.g. GitLab)
> a Github Replacement, PR review/Bug Bot, Cloud Agents
Those things are a dime a dozen, you can vibe code them in weeks/months and there plenty of options on the market already. Well not Github of course, but there are various reason for that which have little to do with product quality and features (not that I think there are many companies which could build a meaningful GH replacement in a realistic time period despite its many flaws).
I just don't really see a huge income stream for dev tools companies (just like there never was) they can skim of something from the top by reselling AI models (generally at zero or negative margins..) but that's not the most lucrative business model when you have no real moot.
- ballon_monkey 4mo agoHow did grok 'fail' ? This is news to me.
- XorNot 4mo agoMy company has Claude. People were excited to use Claude. Absolutely no one, despite the option, considered a grok model.
- ballon_monkey 4mo ago"my company doesn't use it so no one uses it" - typical out of touch HN commenter.
- mthoms 4mo agoGiven that Grok is selling all of the compute capacity from its flagship data centre out to a direct competitor sorta speaks for itself. Does it mean they are out of the race? I have no idea, but things don't look great. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48037986
- rtehfm 4mo agoThey're only selling compute from Colossus 1.
- scheme271 4mo agoThere's a HN article and discussion about Anthropic expanding to use Colossus 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48214017 I think it's fairly clear that grok isn't using as much compute as expected.
- bjelkeman-again 4mo agoSeriously though. I haven’t heard anyone use Grok in software engineering context. Maybe I live under a rock.
- youre-wrong3 4mo agoThere are more uses to AI than just software engineering…
- Saline9515 4mo agoFor a lot of people, Grok is the first AI they got to use through Twitter. Grok does get quite a lot of usage, and isn't out of the game - coding tools aren't the only use case for AI.
- bdangubic 4mo agothis is like saying people still use google glass. sure, some people might but AI-wise it is as dead of a product as it gets
- Saline9515 4mo agoGoogle glass has been discontinued? Besides, many people use it on Twitter everyday. Usage is not limited to what you can see on the Openrouter dashboard.
- bdangubic 4mo agomany people use copilot inside outlook to auto-complete their sentences as well :)
- Saline9515 4mo agoMeaning that Copilot is actually a success, even if you don't like it ;-)
- pqtyw 4mo agoBecause Microsoft managed to sell it to a huge number of companies, not directly because people are using it. Hardly anyone is paying for Grok.
- Saline9515 4mo agoUS government is paying for Grok to help it send bombs on Iranians. That's a use case.
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- hackermanai 4mo agoAt least it didn't succeed yet. They should drop a model somewhere, beating something else in some use case, and maybe people would use.
- pqtyw 4mo agoBy not succeeding? It's an also ran, a closed proprietary model which is behind Anthropic, OpenAI, Google and a a bunch of Chinese companies, how do you make money with a produce like that? (besides the absurd IPO of course...)