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Before, the emails were "me@icloud.com", the default for all apple users. There was no way to distinguish normal emails from generated private emails. Now, th
by w10-1 4mo ago
Before, the emails were "me@icloud.com", the default for all apple users. There was no way to distinguish normal emails from generated private emails.
Now, they will be "blah@private.icloud.com", so it will be easy to ban the generated/private email that reduces the ability to associate logins across services.
Unclear why Apple would shoot themselves in this way; I hope it's not Ternus complying with anti-privacy.
- utilize1808 4mo agomaybe to avoid getting their legitimate email servers banned by other servers since they host (i.e. being exploited) a growing number of spam accounts.
- SXX 4mo agoYou cant send mail from Hide My Email aliases. They are only work one way.
- nielsbot 4mo agoYou can send from Hide My Email addresses: https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/use-hide-my-email-in-mail-mmca4d729d79/icloud#mm2ee7ee328e https://support.apple.com/guide/icloud/use-hide-my-email-in-... I think I've also seen this in Mail.app but that's not shown on this page.
- SXX 4mo agoWow my bad I wasnt aware its possible. I remember someone in HN comments complaining about it being one way only back in 2024. UPD: apperently this supposedly only work if someone message you first. So you still cant spam from aliases.
- nielsbot 4mo agoOk thanks. Directions are misleading then.
- int_19h 4mo agoFor most online businesses, blocking Apple email servers sounds like a good way to kill off the portion of your customer base that has the most money to spend.
- reaperducer 4mo agoNow, they will be "blah@private.icloud.com" I've been in the ecosystem long enough to have .iCloud.com, .me, .mobileme.com, iTunes.com, and probably one or two more addresses all assigned by various Apple services over the years before they started unifying the systems. They all work, and independently of one another. I wonder if all the domains will be migrated, and how namespace collisions will be handled.
- SXX 4mo agoApple stated legacy aliases will work as is: > Existing addresses on the legacy domains will continue to work and forward mail to users without interruption.
- snowe2010 4mo agoBut it’s not? Like if they block that subdomain, they will completely block Sign in with Apple.
- pokstad 4mo agoYou can use Hide My Email independently from Sign in with Apple.
- snowe2010 4mo agoI know that, but in doing so you prevent yourself from ever using Sign in with Apple
- Grombobulous 4mo agoI think you as the user can use the aliases without Sign in with Apple though, right? But otherwise, you're right, any website that wants to accept Sign in with Apple will almost certainly be agreeing to Apple's TOS for Sign in with Apple I presume will stop you from blocking this service.
- valicord 4mo agoWhy would they care about this?
- pseudalopex 4mo agoMany web sites and apps do not use Sign in with Apple. And they could block the domain for account creation with email without blocking the domain for account creation with Sign in with Apple. This would not make sense unless Apple changed what personal information Sign in with Apple provided probably. But they could.
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- mortenjorck 4mo agoI see – somehow the Apple UI for this gave me the mistaken impression that privaterelay.appleid.com was the domain used by the alias, but I see now that it was always just icloud.com.