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There is a reason Mozilla is getting ripped to shreds. I’m using Brave and I’d rather people support a degoogled fork of chromium that supports ublock origin,

by m_a_g 4mo ago

There is a reason Mozilla is getting ripped to shreds. I’m using Brave and I’d rather people support a degoogled fork of chromium that supports ublock origin, than keeping Mozilla on life support. And if you don’t like Brave just fork it again.

Ygg2 4mo ago
There's a reason Brave sucks too. From dabbling into cryptocurrency to charging $60 for Brave origins, it's also a dubious proposal. Edit: Someone on Reddit compiled a list of various fuckups. https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_b...
- jorvi 4mo ago
  Of the no-hassle browsers (read: widely support, no snags) it is still the most private browser you can run. It blows Firefox out of the water on adblocking and its adblocking itself doesn't rely on Manifest so it isn't hit by Google's changes.
  - jrm4 4mo ago
    This is an unadvisable forest-v-trees calculation. At any given time, Firefox is rarely the "best" at any snapshot metric. It's nonetheless the thing you can overwhelmingly trust the most in the long run.
thenewnewguy 4mo ago
You mean the same Brave that's only going to offer "limited MV2 support" for five hand chosen extensions because they aren't able of truly keeping it alive? https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/#which-mv2-extensions-will-work-in-brave https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/#which-mv2-... Anything Chromium based is tainted. They will not be able to keep out all of Google's shitty decisions because they are not building a browser, they are building a skin on top of somebody else's browser.
jrm4 4mo ago
Brave seems silly theoretically for two reasons: 1) I think it's well established (or perhaps not well established enough) that "non-profit" is the only way to go for base level computing things like this. Profit motive (as distinguishable from "keep the lights on money," e.g. with Wikipedia) makes you do unnecessary and often harmful experimentation. 2) It's a fork of the thing you're trying to beat. Now, that may not be a deal-killer, but given Chrome's dominance, getting outside of that entirely seems smarter.

by m_a_g 4mo ago

Ygg2 4mo ago

There's a reason Brave sucks too. From dabbling into cryptocurrency to charging $60 for Brave origins, it's also a dubious proposal. Edit: Someone on Reddit compiled a list of various fuckups. https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_b...

jorvi 4mo ago
Of the no-hassle browsers (read: widely support, no snags) it is still the most private browser you can run. It blows Firefox out of the water on adblocking and its adblocking itself doesn't rely on Manifest so it isn't hit by Google's changes.
- jrm4 4mo ago
  This is an unadvisable forest-v-trees calculation. At any given time, Firefox is rarely the "best" at any snapshot metric. It's nonetheless the thing you can overwhelmingly trust the most in the long run.

thenewnewguy 4mo ago

You mean the same Brave that's only going to offer "limited MV2 support" for five hand chosen extensions because they aren't able of truly keeping it alive? https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/#which-mv2-extensions-will-work-in-brave https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/#which-mv2-... Anything Chromium based is tainted. They will not be able to keep out all of Google's shitty decisions because they are not building a browser, they are building a skin on top of somebody else's browser.

jrm4 4mo ago

Brave seems silly theoretically for two reasons: 1) I think it's well established (or perhaps not well established enough) that "non-profit" is the only way to go for base level computing things like this. Profit motive (as distinguishable from "keep the lights on money," e.g. with Wikipedia) makes you do unnecessary and often harmful experimentation. 2) It's a fork of the thing you're trying to beat. Now, that may not be a deal-killer, but given Chrome's dominance, getting outside of that entirely seems smarter.