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> Lodging laws aren't there just to protect hotels. They exist to protect consumers Asserted without evidence.

by tjic 14y ago

tomkarlo 14y ago
Show me how commercial fire codes / building codes protect hotels but not consumers. (Edited from "instead of" to "but not", since the original assertion was that they only help hotel owners.)
- nsp 14y ago
  They don't help people who want to make a new hotel, but they increase barriers to entry into the hotel marketplace, which benefits established players in the space. An analogous case is federal/iihs car safety regulations - since it costs xx million to get a car federally certified, you didn't see that many automotive startups until pretty recently, and we don't get a lot of European cars since it would cost to much to recertify them for the us market
  - anigbrowl 14y ago
    We get plenty of European cars. The only European brands that I've never seen in the US are Seat and Citroen, neither of which is especially competitive even within Europe. Car safety regulations are not there just to aid established players, as evidenced by the fact that US car companies have often strenuously opposed them. They do reduce injuries and deaths from car accidents, which otherwise impose a high cost upon society.
  - BrianEatWorld 14y ago
    This actually affected me directly. A mate and I were looking into bringing over some utes from Australia. Even though the cars are fit for the road over there, the governments here all wanted to "re-certify" the safety of the cars, which meant purchasing several for the sole purpose of having the crashed. Even then, the certifications would only apply to specific years. Now I can understand trying to protect against some crazy welding his own frames in his backyard, but these are cars built by Ford and GM and driven millions of miles on tougher roads than any over here. Completely knackered.
- mamoswined 14y ago
  Apartment buildings also have to adhere to fire codes and building codes too. If they are safe for residents, why wouldn't they be safe for guests?

> Lodging laws aren't there just to protect hotels. They exist to protect consumers Asserted without evidence.

by tjic 14y ago

> Lodging laws aren't there just to protect hotels. They exist to protect consumers Asserted without evidence.

Show me how commercial fire codes / building codes protect hotels but not consumers. (Edited from "instead of" to "but not", since the original assertion was that they only help hotel owners.)

nsp 14y ago
They don't help people who want to make a new hotel, but they increase barriers to entry into the hotel marketplace, which benefits established players in the space. An analogous case is federal/iihs car safety regulations - since it costs xx million to get a car federally certified, you didn't see that many automotive startups until pretty recently, and we don't get a lot of European cars since it would cost to much to recertify them for the us market
- anigbrowl 14y ago
  We get plenty of European cars. The only European brands that I've never seen in the US are Seat and Citroen, neither of which is especially competitive even within Europe. Car safety regulations are not there just to aid established players, as evidenced by the fact that US car companies have often strenuously opposed them. They do reduce injuries and deaths from car accidents, which otherwise impose a high cost upon society.
- BrianEatWorld 14y ago
  This actually affected me directly. A mate and I were looking into bringing over some utes from Australia. Even though the cars are fit for the road over there, the governments here all wanted to "re-certify" the safety of the cars, which meant purchasing several for the sole purpose of having the crashed. Even then, the certifications would only apply to specific years. Now I can understand trying to protect against some crazy welding his own frames in his backyard, but these are cars built by Ford and GM and driven millions of miles on tougher roads than any over here. Completely knackered.
mamoswined 14y ago
Apartment buildings also have to adhere to fire codes and building codes too. If they are safe for residents, why wouldn't they be safe for guests?