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> I hate this fake idea that everyone in the past was one bad harvest from starvation. Perhaps one was/is sometimes a stretch, but starvation and famine were a
by throw0101c 4mo ago
> I hate this fake idea that everyone in the past was one bad harvest from starvation.
Perhaps one was/is sometimes a stretch, but starvation and famine were a thing:
> Over two million people died in two famines in France between 1693 and 1710. Both famines were made worse by ongoing wars.[127]
> As late as the 1690s, Scotland experienced famine which reduced the population of parts of Scotland by at least 15%.[128]
> The Great Famine of 1695–1697 may have killed a third of the Finnish population.[129] and roughly 10% of Norway's population.[130]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#17th_century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#17th_century
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1695–1697 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1695–1697
But even a single year is not unreasonable:
> The Great Famine, which lasted from 1770 until 1771, killed about one tenth of Czech lands' population, or 250,000 inhabitants, and radicalised countrysides leading to peasant uprisings.[135]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#18th_century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#18th_century
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famines_in_Czech_lands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famines_in_Czech_lands
- doctorwho42 4mo agoI was never implying famine wasn't a thing, it has toppled empires... But to say one season of bad harvest will kill off everyone is ludicrous...
- throw0101c 4mo ago> But to say one season of bad harvest will kill off everyone is ludicrous... "Everyone", sure. But the 1770-1 Czech example seems to have taken out 10%: that's not nothing.
- bluGill 4mo agoI didn't say it would kill everyone though. I said it would kill you. Your neighbors may get just enough to survive, but not enough to keep you alive. (If they have surplus they would help you survive - with the expectation you would return that favor in 10-20 years when the situation reverses.