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> The masses work because they want to consume For many millennials and younger working people a huge bulk of income is taken up by housing. There's also a cli
by captainbland 4mo ago
> The masses work because they want to consume
For many millennials and younger working people a huge bulk of income is taken up by housing. There's also a cliff edge of jobs when you transition from full time to part time, it's only rarely possible to find part time work which pays enough to sustain living costs.
This leads to a situation in which people have to work full time in order to meet basic conditions of living and many consumer items like TVs and streaming subscriptions can be had at prices which are negligible compared to their fundamental living costs.
- bluGill 4mo agoThey choose to live on part time income. You can have roommates which greatly reduces your cost of housing. You can eat "steak and lobster", or "rice and beans". Not everyone buys streaming subscriptions, and not just the Amish are doing without. I wouldn't choose most of the above either, which is why I have a full time job.
- monerochan 4mo ago[dead]
- organsnyder 4mo agoIn the United States, healthcare is a major factor, especially if you have a family.
- bluGill 4mo agoHealth care is a major factor for any modern society. A society may allow a few members to opt-out, but only because someone else is taking their share of the cost. Sure health care is expensive in the US, but it isn't much cheaper elsewhere (it is cheaper, but not by that much)
- preg_match 4mo agoHealthcare is both significantly cheaper outside of the US and higher quality on average.
- captainbland 4mo agoThat's not true actually. US healthcare is both expensive at the point of taxpayer spending per capita and at the private expenditure level. It's really lose/lose.
- organsnyder 4mo agoIn most of the world, healthcare isn't tied to your employment. In the United States, healthcare access for working-age people is practically inaccessible* without a full-time job. * Yes, Medicaid exists, but finding providers that accept it can be difficult, and dealing with the bureaucracy to obtain/keep coverage is daunting.
- sehansen 4mo agoThe US spent ~15000 USD per capita on healthcare in 2024, the highest number in the OECD. The second highest spending is in Switzerland at ~10000 USD per capita. So healthcare is ~50% more expensive in the US than in any other (rich) country. Source: https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/2025/11/health-at-a-glance-2025_a894f72e/full-report/health-expenditure-per-capita_affe6b0a.html https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/2025/11/health-at-a-gla...
- chrisrhoden 4mo agoThe argument you are responding to is that people work full time and consume at that level because a step function in compensation (esp including healthcare) makes working part time infeasible even on rice and beans.