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> “Live and [let] live” is a pretty good role of thumb to live by for most people in most cases Absolutely nobody follows that rule. People just disagree on wh
by p-e-w 4mo ago
> “Live and [let] live” is a pretty good role of thumb to live by for most people in most cases
Absolutely nobody follows that rule. People just disagree on what is acceptable to inflict upon others with violence.
- Forgeties79 4mo agoIdk I have managed to live my whole life without inflicting violence on others. Literally never been in a physical altercation.
- p-e-w 4mo agoWell, presumably you outsource the job of inflicting violence to others, like most people do. Voting for pretty much any political candidate is equivalent to doing so.
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- Forgeties79 4mo agoAnd every time you use hackernews you’re contributing to the climate crisis in some form or other. These kinds of comments are not productive.
- p-e-w 4mo agoThere’s a difference between the two. All politics is based on violence because violence is how laws are enforced. Thus by participating in politics (which includes voting), one implicitly endorses violence. By contrast, an online service is not “based on destroying the climate”, that’s at best an unfortunate side effect, and possibly not even that as there are plenty of hosters that are climate neutral now. More importantly, the fact that Internet infrastructure is damaging to the climate is widely recognized as a problem and there is a large-scale effort to fix it. There isn’t an effort to remove violence from the state though; the state is effectively defined by violence and anyone who supports the modern state in any way is inflicting violence by proxy.
- Forgeties79 4mo ago> By contrast, an online service is not “based on destroying the climate” And my voting is not based on doing violence to others, and I don’t have a reasonable alternative, and we both know the consequences even if it’s not our intention to bring them about. You are drawing your own line in the sand and sorting things into arbitrary categories on either side of the line. This debate is pointless, so I’m moving on. Have a good one mate.
- takipsizad 4mo agoif you genuinely think "All politics is based on violence " please do not participate in political discussions
- p-e-w 4mo agoDid you read the words immediately following the part you quoted?