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Books that are assigned reading in schools and universities, and promoted by libraries, are "under threat", while books nearly impossible to find, never on any

Books that are assigned reading in schools and universities, and promoted by libraries, are "under threat", while books nearly impossible to find, never on any reading lists, and whose promoters get their speeches shut down by French police [1], or get investigated by the FBI and kicked out of university [2], are to be considered widely available, got it. And your "historically banned" is just "occasionally removed from public school libraries on parental request". Not using tax money to promote them to children is a low, low bar for "banned". While actual availability is, of course, completely ignored. Whatever tells the best story, facts be damned. [1] Jared Taylor's Banned Conference Speech - https://www.arktosjournal.com/p/jared-taylors-banned-conference-speech https://www.arktosjournal.com/p/jared-taylors-banned-confere... [2] Ohio universities involve FBI in investigation of ‘It’s okay to be white’ and white nationalist group’s postings on campus - https://www.thefire.org/news/ohio-universities-involve-fbi-investigation-its-okay-be-white-and-white-nationalist-groups https://www.thefire.org/news/ohio-universities-involve-fbi-i...

chipsrafferty 4mo ago
Why do you want people to read those books so bad?
- like_any_other 4mo ago
  It's convenient that only evil people point out the emperor has no clothes, isn't it?
margalabargala 4mo ago
We've decided collectively as a society that some ideas are "good" and others are "bad". For example, racism and white supremacy have been decided to be "bad". There's an alternate reality where white supremacy is mainstream, where queer fiction is impossible to find, and that would be a different world. Instead, what's being preserved are the books written that celebrate the values that match our broad cultural values, despite a handful of cultural deviants attempting to suppress the parts of the rest of humanity they dislike.
- BigTTYGothGF 4mo ago
  > that would be a different world Yes, it's called "the past".
- like_any_other 4mo ago
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  - margalabargala 4mo ago
    "For once"? That's a significant impugnment of the honesty of a person you know nothing about. "Banned books" is the colloquial term for these books, even if it's not as accurate as you'd personally prefer. Next thing you'll be complaining you bit into an Apple and got computer instead of fruit.
    - like_any_other 4mo ago
      > "Banned books" is the colloquial term for these books Yes, many people are either unaware of, or willing participants in, this lie. That doesn't make it any less of a lie.
      - margalabargala 4mo ago
        It's not a lie. Some entity somewhere banned them. It's vague, not inaccurate. You're just pissy because they aren't using your personal favorite parameters around "banned" for "by whom" and "for whom". You're pretending your opinion is fact and therefore anyone who disagrees must be a liar.
        like_any_other 4mo ago
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        margalabargala 4mo ago
        > deliberately conveys Just because you decided to interpret something one way, doesn't mean it was a deliberate choice by the other party, nor does it mean your interpretation is common. > technically you're not actually lying. What did I say that you consider a lie? Could you quote me?

chipsrafferty 4mo ago

Why do you want people to read those books so bad?

like_any_other 4mo ago
It's convenient that only evil people point out the emperor has no clothes, isn't it?

margalabargala 4mo ago

We've decided collectively as a society that some ideas are "good" and others are "bad". For example, racism and white supremacy have been decided to be "bad". There's an alternate reality where white supremacy is mainstream, where queer fiction is impossible to find, and that would be a different world. Instead, what's being preserved are the books written that celebrate the values that match our broad cultural values, despite a handful of cultural deviants attempting to suppress the parts of the rest of humanity they dislike.

BigTTYGothGF 4mo ago
> that would be a different world Yes, it's called "the past".
like_any_other 4mo ago
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- margalabargala 4mo ago
  "For once"? That's a significant impugnment of the honesty of a person you know nothing about. "Banned books" is the colloquial term for these books, even if it's not as accurate as you'd personally prefer. Next thing you'll be complaining you bit into an Apple and got computer instead of fruit.
  - like_any_other 4mo ago
    > "Banned books" is the colloquial term for these books Yes, many people are either unaware of, or willing participants in, this lie. That doesn't make it any less of a lie.
    - margalabargala 4mo ago
      It's not a lie. Some entity somewhere banned them. It's vague, not inaccurate. You're just pissy because they aren't using your personal favorite parameters around "banned" for "by whom" and "for whom". You're pretending your opinion is fact and therefore anyone who disagrees must be a liar.
      - like_any_other 4mo ago
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        margalabargala 4mo ago
        > deliberately conveys Just because you decided to interpret something one way, doesn't mean it was a deliberate choice by the other party, nor does it mean your interpretation is common. > technically you're not actually lying. What did I say that you consider a lie? Could you quote me?