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I can use Gemini 3 Flash with the harness I built for around 8 years and still not exceed the cost of a Mac Studio with 128GB, the price for privacy is very hig

by ojr 5mo ago

I can use Gemini 3 Flash with the harness I built for around 8 years and still not exceed the cost of a Mac Studio with 128GB, the price for privacy is very high. Agentic flows that get stuck can be worked around but I prefer developer velocity.

disqard 5mo ago
Under-rated take, thanks for stating this! Not everyone can plough $$$$ into hardware right now (more power to those who can), so choosing to rent is an A-Ok strategy.
- tpm 5mo ago
  It's ok if you can send your code and data to the provider. Some of us can't.
  - _zoltan_ 5mo ago
    We're discussing home use. You can. You just don't want to. Huge difference.
    - monooso 5mo ago
      > We're discussing home use. You may be, but the topic of discussion is whether anyone is using a local model as their main coding tool.
      - _zoltan_ 5mo ago
        for corporate use it's a mistake not to use a frontier model.
    - tpm 5mo ago
      Well plenty of people work from home. For corporate use, if the corporation would break the law sending anything to the open internet or to the US, then you can't use any model that's not hosted in house. And there are many such cases.
danans 5mo ago
> I can use Gemini 3 Flash with the harness I built for around 8 years and still not exceed the cost of a Mac Studio with 128GB And sounds like you haven't factored in the cost of electricity to run that Mac Studio as an LLM machine. Probably get a few more years.
ClikeX 5mo ago
> the price for privacy is very high Not sure if you intended this to be this philosophical, but this is basically the slogan for modern life now.
- gwerbin 5mo ago
  Yeah but the price for, say, private email is a lot less.
ihateolives 5mo ago
Sure, but Gemini subscription gives you just that - Gemini subscription, but new computer allows you to do other stuff with it as well. When you're upgrading anyway for other reasons then it's not fair to compare full Studio price to just one subscription.

by ojr 5mo ago

disqard 5mo ago

Under-rated take, thanks for stating this! Not everyone can plough $$$$ into hardware right now (more power to those who can), so choosing to rent is an A-Ok strategy.

tpm 5mo ago
It's ok if you can send your code and data to the provider. Some of us can't.
- _zoltan_ 5mo ago
  We're discussing home use. You can. You just don't want to. Huge difference.
  - monooso 5mo ago
    > We're discussing home use. You may be, but the topic of discussion is whether anyone is using a local model as their main coding tool.
    - _zoltan_ 5mo ago
      for corporate use it's a mistake not to use a frontier model.
  - tpm 5mo ago
    Well plenty of people work from home. For corporate use, if the corporation would break the law sending anything to the open internet or to the US, then you can't use any model that's not hosted in house. And there are many such cases.

danans 5mo ago

> I can use Gemini 3 Flash with the harness I built for around 8 years and still not exceed the cost of a Mac Studio with 128GB And sounds like you haven't factored in the cost of electricity to run that Mac Studio as an LLM machine. Probably get a few more years.

ClikeX 5mo ago

> the price for privacy is very high Not sure if you intended this to be this philosophical, but this is basically the slogan for modern life now.

gwerbin 5mo ago
Yeah but the price for, say, private email is a lot less.

ihateolives 5mo ago

Sure, but Gemini subscription gives you just that - Gemini subscription, but new computer allows you to do other stuff with it as well. When you're upgrading anyway for other reasons then it's not fair to compare full Studio price to just one subscription.