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> I think there is a real hole in the market for a simple solution that lets you deploy some containers to some instances in a declarative fashion without all o
by embedding-shape 4mo ago
> I think there is a real hole in the market for a simple solution that lets you deploy some containers to some instances in a declarative fashion without all of that complexity and does decent LTS versions
Hashicorp's Nomad basically is just that, supports various way of running stuff too which is neat. Shame about the license change which basically killed all my interest in it, so seems the hole is indeed still unfilled.
- mikeocool 4mo agoYeah I’ve always meant to check out nomad and never had an opportunity. Though as I recall, it makes heavy use of consul, which I have used in anger, and makes me a little weary (though that experience is likely very out of date).
- embedding-shape 4mo agoIt doesn't require Consul IIRC, but bunch of features does depend on it, like service discovery and related stuff. But Nomad is totally usable without Consul for simpler setups.
- xav0989 4mo agoThey’ve now had nomad-native services without consul for a while, including health checks!
- embedding-shape 4mo agoOh neat, wasn't aware! Cheers for providing the update, now if they only could revert the license it might be something one could use again.
- mocamoca 4mo agoI've been using Nomad for years without Consul. Maybe if you complex networking requirements it is worth it, else don't really need it.
- ddreier 4mo agoNomad has gained basic service discovery and K/V store without Consul. However, health checking is extremely limited.
- nyrikki 4mo agoFor simple cases I just launch podman containers on long lived hosts with ansible. You can still add pods if needed and the systemd integration works. Plus you can actually improve isolation by co-hosting services under separate UIDs. Like any container it is just co-hosting, and elasticity is a bit slower with autoscaling instances, but it removes most of the complexity of K8s which very few org benefit from or have the culture to support.
- mocamoca 4mo agoAs CTO of a small startup and cutting costs, setting up hashicorp nomad + bare metal is a joy to work with. Some self-reloading HAProxy in nomad to automatically assign URLs to services when needed. Could have used Consul but meh. Tailscale for private networking.
- alexjurkiewicz 4mo agoAWS ECS and GCP Cloud Run are this. Run a container on abstract compute. But they aren't "without all that complexity" because it turns out all that complexity is required for even simple use-cases. Load balancing with SSl certs, cloud API keys, deployment pipelines, sidecars, etc.
- embedding-shape 4mo agoThose are hosted services? Completely different class of solution.