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The UN Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees Article 34 says: > The Contracting States shall as far as possible facilitate the assimilation and natural
by advisedwang 4mo ago
The UN Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees Article 34 says:
> The Contracting States shall as far as possible facilitate the assimilation and naturalization of refugees. They shall in particular make every effort to expedite naturalization proceedings and to reduce as far as possible the charges and costs of such proceedings.
Sweden is a signatory and seems to be in non-compliance.
- bonzini 4mo agoMy understanding is that giving permanent residence means not naturalizing, and therefore this is a step towards compliance.
- advisedwang 4mo agoI'm not familiar with the Swedish system, but in the 2 immigration systems I am familiar with, permanent residence is a step you must take before naturalizing.
- bonzini 4mo agoIs one of those in the EU?
- advisedwang 4mo agoNo, although a quick search shows France also operates on this principal. Is there any counterexamples you are thinking of?
- bonzini 4mo agoItaly has a long term residence card that is valid for 10 years, and renewable indefinitely, but the conditions for renew are absolutely not comparable to a green card for example. Just go out of the EU for a year and it's no more. https://www.poliziadistato.it/articolo/ec-residence-permit-for-long-term-residents https://www.poliziadistato.it/articolo/ec-residence-permit-f... This was adopted by Italy in 2007. So while I am not sure about it I suspect it's the same for all EU countries, since immigration papers are mostly governed by EU regulations and directives. What is your source for France having mandatory permanent residency prior to naturalization (unless it's permanent in the sense of renewable indefinitely)? Edit: indeed, this is a bill for adopting rules laid out in the EU directive on immigration and asylum.
- belorn 4mo agoIn those two immigration systems you are familiar with, what is the difference between permanent residence and naturalizing, and is there any benefit to get naturalizing rather than staying as permanent residence?
- advisedwang 4mo ago1. Leave the country for an extended period and return 2. (USA) Vote, make political contributions and run for (most) political office. (UK) run for MP 3. (USA) Sponsor family members for permanent residency (UK) get a family visa for your family. 4. (USA) Speed your spouse' eligibility for naturalization from 5 to 3 years. 5. Gain the benefits of travelling on a US/UK passport. 6. Work in national security jobs which require citizenship. 7. Not be at the whims of future changes in immigration law.
- torben-friis 4mo agoAbout 2% of Sweden's population are refugees (!). For contrast, for the US the figure is 0.1% And it's not like they are in a border with an active war zone.
- advisedwang 4mo agoSo? The convention says nothing about requiring a border with a conflict and nothing about a cap.
- zulux 4mo agoAs I understand, asylum seekers are to stop at the first safe country. They don't get to pick wherever they want.
- advisedwang 4mo agoEach state is independently obligated not to return a refugee to a place of danger. The convention allows countries to make agreements to deport refugees to safe 3rd parties or stop refugees from transiting (like the EU has with Turkey). If Sweden finds another place for these refugees that's legal (and then that country has the obligation to eventually naturalize them). Sweden is just not supposed to keep people in a permanent temporary state. (Also, many asylum seekers just get on a plane, and for them Sweden may well be their first stop)
- torben-friis 4mo agoSo I think calling them out for not helping enough is going to involve a lot of glass houses.
- IlikeMadison 4mo agoEconomic migrants are not refugees, try again.
- advisedwang 4mo agoThe article specifically says "reducing asylum-related immigration"
- LargoLasskhyfv 4mo agoFreebies are an economic pull factor for seeking asylum where they are available.