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To put it bluntly and perhaps a bit cynically, on the tree of bad things that people do to other people, this is pretty high-hanging fruit. Right up there next
by bityard 4mo ago
To put it bluntly and perhaps a bit cynically, on the tree of bad things that people do to other people, this is pretty high-hanging fruit. Right up there next to scam phone calls that prey on the elderly while claiming to be from Microsoft support.
It's basically impossible to catch suspects because they are either smart enough to cover their tracks very well, or (more often) live in countries whose governments don't care about their citizens (even pay them for) scamming westerners.
- Barbing 4mo agoSaw Microsoft has a dedicated scam reporting page - guess it was damaging their brand https://reportfraud.microsoft.com/en-us https://reportfraud.microsoft.com/en-us Wonder if they’re effective in going after reports. I’d still report to IC3/FBI/powers that be, too. Just in case someone somewhere has the resources to do something… perhaps a high hope
- mgiampapa 4mo agoI get more calls from Google Security than any other thing. Oddly the Pixel's built in scam detection and call screening lets them through without fail. I normally don't have my phone even ring unless it's in my contacts, but saying you are calling from Google is like a magic code.
- throwaway85825 4mo agoThey must have whitelisted the word Google. Very useful to scammers.
- Xirdus 4mo agoHard disagree on the scam phone calls. It would be trivial to eradicate them almost completely if the phone operators did the bare minimum to fight against it. At any point in time, any given US phone number is handled by exactly one phone carrier. There is nothing stopping that carrier from requiring name and address to issue that phone number. They already do for 99.99% of their legitimate customers. It would be very easy to make it so that every single phone call originating from the US, including all VOIP calls made with US phone numbers, can be traced back to a specific business or person that can later be sued or prosecuted. And no, number spoofing isn't an excuse either. We literally solved the much harder problem of email spoofing already. There are, what, 3 carrier networks in all of US? And they cannot do with each other what DMARC did for the hundreds of thousands disjoint organizations that comprise the internet? Please.
- a34729t 4mo agoYeah 100%. It's criminal that this is not already done.
- firefax 4mo ago>It would be trivial to eradicate them almost completely Absolutely true, but droning their data centers might have some policy repercussions.
- ungreased0675 4mo agoA majority of people would enthusiastically support drone strikes on scam callers and their infrastructure.
- ChrisMarshallNY 4mo agoWasn’t that sort of the premise of The Beekeeper?
- salawat 4mo agoKYC just for a phone number opens the door for societal ostracization and essentially blacklisting of people from infrastructure. This is on par with being unable to open a bank account if the capability is matured. I'd advise that you think long and hard about the consequences of this system being applied against you maliciously before signing on the dotted line.
- mschuster91 4mo ago> KYC just for a phone number opens the door for societal ostracization and essentially blacklisting of people from infrastructure. We have that in Europe and the world has not fallen apart. On top of that, we don't have even close to the scale of problems with scammers that the US has. I won't deny we don't have scammers because we absolutely have them, but they are far from the scourge they are in the US. > This is on par with being unable to open a bank account if the capability is matured. The secret is... we have constitutionally protected rights. Unless you do not pay your bills, your phone line will not get disconnected. And same for bank accounts - every European has the right to a basic banking account, even if you are a target of foreign sanctions [1]. [1] https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/konto-eugh-usa-sanktionen-100.html https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/konto-eugh-usa-sank...
- codedokode 4mo agoI always wondered why US cannot pressure India to crack down on those scammers? They use phone network, it should not be difficult to find them. Some youtubers even hack into their computers and extract all the info. US probably has a leverage here, they could simply ban Indian companies from working with US if they don't cooperate. US was so angry about "unfair" tariffs why are they not angry about criminals stealing from Americans?