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> this is more bourgeoisie than middle class The bourgeoisie are literally the middle class [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie https://en.wiki

> this is more bourgeoisie than middle class The bourgeoisie are literally the middle class [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie

rvnx 5mo ago
> The bourgeoisie are a social class of business owners, merchants and wealthy people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourgeoisie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourg... There is even a funny article here: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer There is more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying_to_understand_who_the_bourgeoisie_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying... So, if you want to play it safe, you can say, "it's the upper middle class that own the businesses and factories" I'll give it to you
- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
  > No, it's the rich middle class The "no" is incorrect. Some people use it to refer to the upper middle class. But this betrays the term's original Revolutionary as well as Marxists roots, and I'd argue, is inherently incorrect. The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class. And our rich don't want to admit that we're rich. > it's the upper middle class that own the businesses and factories I.e. everyone with a 401(k). (Two fifths of Americans have no material shareownership.) If you don’t own equities or real estate in America, you’re poor. If you do, you’re middle class or rich. And if you’re middle class or rich and confused which you are, if you have ever chartered a private plane you’re rich, if you haven’t you’re the bourgeoisie.
  - rvnx 5mo ago
    > The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class. At least something I agree with you, it quite makes sense

> this is more bourgeoisie than middle class The bourgeoisie are literally the middle class [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie

rvnx 5mo ago

> The bourgeoisie are a social class of business owners, merchants and wealthy people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourgeoisie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_class#Bourg... There is even a funny article here: https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer https://danielmiessler.com/blog/a-bourgeoisie-primer There is more here: https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying_to_understand_who_the_bourgeoisie_are/ https://www.reddit.com/r/communism101/comments/hilk3e/trying... So, if you want to play it safe, you can say, "it's the upper middle class that own the businesses and factories" I'll give it to you

JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> No, it's the rich middle class The "no" is incorrect. Some people use it to refer to the upper middle class. But this betrays the term's original Revolutionary as well as Marxists roots, and I'd argue, is inherently incorrect. The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class. And our rich don't want to admit that we're rich. > it's the upper middle class that own the businesses and factories I.e. everyone with a 401(k). (Two fifths of Americans have no material shareownership.) If you don’t own equities or real estate in America, you’re poor. If you do, you’re middle class or rich. And if you’re middle class or rich and confused which you are, if you have ever chartered a private plane you’re rich, if you haven’t you’re the bourgeoisie.
- rvnx 5mo ago
  > The main reason we blur these lines is because we want to call our poor middle class. At least something I agree with you, it quite makes sense