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GP is talking about how common it is for the "small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg" (i.e. cabin luggage) to be f

GP is talking about how common it is for the "small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg" (i.e. cabin luggage) to be force checked at the gate.

JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
> GP is talking about how common it is Sure. This legislation directly addresses that. It creates a right where there previously wasn't one. A right which solves OP's problem.
- zamadatix 4mo ago
  This seems to be focused on whether a cost can be charged for providing such services (opt-out vs opt-in for a base fare), not on guaranteeing actual in-cabin storage for such bags.
  - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
    > seems to be focused on whether a cost can be charged for providing such services (opt-out vs opt-in for a base fare), not on guaranteeing actual in-cabin storage for such bags I read "entitled" as granting a right. I've tried searching for the draft legal language, but am having no luck.
    - zamadatix 4mo ago
      Being entitled does grant a right, it just doesn't redefine what the name of the service being offered means on its own. The second reading draft differences can be found here https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-7162-2026-INIT/en/pdf https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-7162-2026-I... (pages 116-117) and it locks in the existing process: > Article 11a Right to personal item and hand baggage ... > The hand baggage may be stored either in the aircraft cabin (as carry-on baggage) or in the aircraft hold. The carrier may refuse to allow the hand baggage on board only on grounds of security connected with the weight or size of the hand baggage in relation to the characteristics of the aircraft. Side note: Parts of the elided text even stop short of guaranteeing your personal item will actually make it to the cabin in all cases.

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GP is talking about how common it is for the "small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg" (i.e. cabin luggage) to be f

by zamadatix 4mo ago

GP is talking about how common it is for the "small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg" (i.e. cabin luggage) to be force checked at the gate.

JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
> GP is talking about how common it is Sure. This legislation directly addresses that. It creates a right where there previously wasn't one. A right which solves OP's problem.
- zamadatix 4mo ago
  This seems to be focused on whether a cost can be charged for providing such services (opt-out vs opt-in for a base fare), not on guaranteeing actual in-cabin storage for such bags.
  - JumpCrisscross 4mo ago
    > seems to be focused on whether a cost can be charged for providing such services (opt-out vs opt-in for a base fare), not on guaranteeing actual in-cabin storage for such bags I read "entitled" as granting a right. I've tried searching for the draft legal language, but am having no luck.
    - zamadatix 4mo ago
      Being entitled does grant a right, it just doesn't redefine what the name of the service being offered means on its own. The second reading draft differences can be found here https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-7162-2026-INIT/en/pdf https://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/ST-7162-2026-I... (pages 116-117) and it locks in the existing process: > Article 11a Right to personal item and hand baggage ... > The hand baggage may be stored either in the aircraft cabin (as carry-on baggage) or in the aircraft hold. The carrier may refuse to allow the hand baggage on board only on grounds of security connected with the weight or size of the hand baggage in relation to the characteristics of the aircraft. Side note: Parts of the elided text even stop short of guaranteeing your personal item will actually make it to the cabin in all cases.