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Bullshit. The AI Act is not the problem, Mistral models are definitely usable and some were/are competitive. European future looks bright compared to the polit
by mnewme 4mo ago
Bullshit. The AI Act is not the problem, Mistral models are definitely usable and some were/are competitive.
European future looks bright compared to the political landscape the US has now
- Saline9515 4mo agoDo you think that companies and States will use "usable" models from Mistral (who has left the race anyway), or frontiers/near frontier ? It's akin to say that walking a good enough means of transportation and we don't need anything else. One day the guys in charriots will remind you of the dire reality.
- mnewme 4mo agoI am not denying Mistral is not top tier anymore, (except OCR and STT for speed/efficency) just that the AI Act is not the reason they are not. But we will see, they have very interesting Enterpise Use Cases, like with Mistral Forge. And YannLeCun decided to build in Europe as well
- 0x3f 4mo ago> And YannLeCun decided to build in Europe as well AMI has offices across the world. Fact is, companies often have at least an office where the CEO lives. Same when Musk kicked up a stink about 'leaving California'. It wasn't really anything of substance.
- mnewme 4mo agoYes but you can make the reverse argument as well: many US companies have offices in Europe and often their research departments. This whole US vs Europe discussions are fruitless anyways
- sajithdilshan 4mo agoPolitical landscape of the US right now will change in few years like it has been changing for the last 250 years. USA does not equate to its current political situation. But EU would keep on rotting from inside and I would eat my hat if Mistral doesn’t go out of business in next 5 years
- HDThoreaun 4mo agoThere will always be a place for domestically sourced AI I think. Even if Mistral models suck theyll get enough defense revenue that they wont go out of business
- sajithdilshan 4mo agoSums up EU in a nutshell, if it cannot compete in the open market, fund it by tax payers money (defence budgets are funded by tax payers money)
- HDThoreaun 4mo agoI mean US is doing the same thing with intel so not like this is EU exclusive
- sajithdilshan 4mo agoYou cannot be seriously comparing Mistral to Intel. Intel might be falling behind right now, but they were pioneers in 90s and 2000s. When has Mistral ever been a pioneer on anything?
- mnewme 4mo agoActually at MoE. Though Deepseek took that approach and improved it by a lot.
- mnewme 4mo agoThey do in many other areas. Look at ASML or look at chemicals