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If you’re arguing that model metrics don’t necessarily translate into useful output, I agree. That’s not how I measure the success of a mode and not really the
by codinhood 4mo ago
If you’re arguing that model metrics don’t necessarily translate into useful output, I agree. That’s not how I measure the success of a mode and not really the point I'm trying to make. I try to set things up and test it on my actual projects.
What I’m saying is that if local models were actually comparable to Claude Code in practice, we wouldn’t be having threads like this. It would be obvious to the people using them, and it would be massively disruptive. Why would individuals and companies pay hundreds or thousands for Claude Code if they could run something locally and consistently get similar results?
Every month I revisit the local ecosystem hoping the answer has changed. So far, my experience has been that it hasn’t.
- jrm4 3mo agoHaving, e.g. seen Microsoft maintain a monopoly for well over a decade, there's nothing in my experience that suggests that "quality always beats hype" is remotely true. It's entirely possible Claude is just winning the hype game.
- robertlagrant 3mo agoMicrosoft have not maintained a monopoly on search, mobile, or maps, and they seem to mostly maintain their large market segments based on familiarity, not hype.
- jrm4 3mo ago? I was speaking historically, not now
- robertlagrant 3mo agoI don't know why you're surprised; you didn't specify you meant historically.
- jrm4 3mo agoThat was the point of the "e.g."
- robertlagrant 3mo agoE.g. doesn't mean historically.