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I don't want to be a gatekeeper, but Clojure, Janet and similars doesn't even have cons cells; that's hardly 'the same programming language'.

• arunix 4mo ago
  Is the lack of cons cells a significant limitation?
  • ux266478 4mo ago
    Limitation is the wrong way to think about things when computational equivalence is in play. It's about mental foundation. Lisp at its core is like driving a Turing machine, Clojure is not.
  • iLemming 4mo ago
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• tacoda 4mo ago
  I would call these different dialects of Lisp. The data doesn’t have to be a function. It’s illustrative. The patterns of application still work. What’s the difference if delimiters are different or if you are calling JVM libraries? The high-level ideas are still right there. Consider JavaScript. It is definitely not a Lisp, but if you model it as Lisp in C’s clothes, then all of a sudden IIFEs make total sense. The point is that it’s a helpful mental model for languages other than Lisp.