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I ditched Windows in 2022. I'm not going back to Windows unless Microsoft makes an OS for professionals that is stripped down out of the box to show how serious

I ditched Windows in 2022. I'm not going back to Windows unless Microsoft makes an OS for professionals that is stripped down out of the box to show how serious they are. No ads of any kind, no garbage online account features, nothing, just core offline-ready Windows. I bet it would perform drastically better too.

marak830 5mo ago
Yup, Windows 10 LTSC here. It's a lot faster and smoother, but I'm already transitioning to Linux on my other boxes. Will probably move before LTSC runs out as well. edit: I realised I overplayed how much faster and smoother it is. compared to standard win 10 or 11. Example being my login screen sometimes struggles to come up when the computer is locked (work around double mash CTRL-ALT-DEL)
- giancarlostoro 5mo ago
  I have a Surface Book 2 which was insanely fast when I bought it. Its pretty vanilla, I dont like to tweak Windows often it usually feels like it degrades, its been sluggish the last two years or so. Idk what Microsoft did but used to be vanilla Windows was performant enough, they must have fired their performance guys? Idk
  - marak830 4mo ago
    Yeah, their performance has gone in the toilet. Recently we needed an old system setup just for group meetings in the office. I installed 11 on it - it struggled, gave up, threw a linux install on for giggles and it's buttery smooth.
cafebabbe 5mo ago
Same (2024), but i wouldn't come back in a hurry if they did so. Basically everything works now in Linux world, including my obscure devices, music & video editing, and my whole steam library... with better performance. It's sort of insane.
- GordonS 5mo ago
  I just installed Bazzite-DX, and have been really surprised with how easy it was to install, and how well everything "just works". It even tells me when my wireless keyboard batteries are running out, something Windows couldn't do without running proprietary Logitech software.
- My_Name 5mo ago
  Which distro do you run?
0x1d7 5mo ago
Sounds like Windows 11 Pro would do it for you, then.
- giancarlostoro 5mo ago
  I have already used that version of Windows, it is hot garbage.
  - 0x1d7 5mo ago
    How is it 'hot garbage'?
    - giancarlostoro 5mo ago
      Every single time it updates, which it forces on me I come back to add to buy Office 365 even if I already have it. On one computer the File Manager is slowed to a crawl, the image viewer slows to a crawl if I hit left or right arrow keys. The built-in antivirus has a feature to send “suspicious” files to Microsoft, with zero audit trail of what it sends over, and its on by default. The various UI inconsistencies, theres weird XP goop mixed with the modern UI. I tried to make a new user account one time and it told me I couldnt because I needed to use another feature within Windows to do so, when I went to do so it told me I needed to either use the same feature that led me there (if I remember correctly). It was ridiculous. Hot, garbage since 2022. Not to mention all the absurd telemetry. Everything you type into the start menu goes into a Microsoft backend. Everything, every time. Idk how people can have so much of their data constantly going to a Microsoft backend without being upset. Goes back all the way to Windows 8 or 10 btw.
      - 0x1d7 4mo ago
        > Every single time it updates, which it forces on me I come back to add to buy Office 365 even if I already have it. Yes, it's dumb, but you can disable it in Settings. > On one computer the File Manager is slowed to a crawl, the image viewer slows to a crawl if I hit left or right arrow keys. While I'm not going to say you're not experiencing this, this isn't something I've seen personally. So it isn't a universal issue. > The built-in antivirus has a feature to send “suspicious” files to Microsoft, with zero audit trail of what it sends over, and its on by default. Audit trail is in Event Viewer. > The various UI inconsistencies, theres weird XP goop mixed with the modern UI. There is even Windows 3.x UI mixed in. This hasn't changed and is nothing new, nor interesting. > I tried to make a new user account one time and it told me I couldnt because I needed to use another feature within Windows to do so, Creating a new account doesn't require a Windows Feature to be added. Compmgr.msc. > Everything you type into the start menu goes into a Microsoft backend. No. Just wrong. It sounds like you should educate yourself on Windows. And I did specifically mention Pro.

marak830 5mo ago

Yup, Windows 10 LTSC here. It's a lot faster and smoother, but I'm already transitioning to Linux on my other boxes. Will probably move before LTSC runs out as well. edit: I realised I overplayed how much faster and smoother it is. compared to standard win 10 or 11. Example being my login screen sometimes struggles to come up when the computer is locked (work around double mash CTRL-ALT-DEL)

giancarlostoro 5mo ago
I have a Surface Book 2 which was insanely fast when I bought it. Its pretty vanilla, I dont like to tweak Windows often it usually feels like it degrades, its been sluggish the last two years or so. Idk what Microsoft did but used to be vanilla Windows was performant enough, they must have fired their performance guys? Idk
- marak830 4mo ago
  Yeah, their performance has gone in the toilet. Recently we needed an old system setup just for group meetings in the office. I installed 11 on it - it struggled, gave up, threw a linux install on for giggles and it's buttery smooth.

cafebabbe 5mo ago

Same (2024), but i wouldn't come back in a hurry if they did so. Basically everything works now in Linux world, including my obscure devices, music & video editing, and my whole steam library... with better performance. It's sort of insane.

GordonS 5mo ago
I just installed Bazzite-DX, and have been really surprised with how easy it was to install, and how well everything "just works". It even tells me when my wireless keyboard batteries are running out, something Windows couldn't do without running proprietary Logitech software.
My_Name 5mo ago
Which distro do you run?

0x1d7 5mo ago

Sounds like Windows 11 Pro would do it for you, then.

giancarlostoro 5mo ago
I have already used that version of Windows, it is hot garbage.
- 0x1d7 5mo ago
  How is it 'hot garbage'?
  - giancarlostoro 5mo ago
    Every single time it updates, which it forces on me I come back to add to buy Office 365 even if I already have it. On one computer the File Manager is slowed to a crawl, the image viewer slows to a crawl if I hit left or right arrow keys. The built-in antivirus has a feature to send “suspicious” files to Microsoft, with zero audit trail of what it sends over, and its on by default. The various UI inconsistencies, theres weird XP goop mixed with the modern UI. I tried to make a new user account one time and it told me I couldnt because I needed to use another feature within Windows to do so, when I went to do so it told me I needed to either use the same feature that led me there (if I remember correctly). It was ridiculous. Hot, garbage since 2022. Not to mention all the absurd telemetry. Everything you type into the start menu goes into a Microsoft backend. Everything, every time. Idk how people can have so much of their data constantly going to a Microsoft backend without being upset. Goes back all the way to Windows 8 or 10 btw.
    - 0x1d7 4mo ago
      > Every single time it updates, which it forces on me I come back to add to buy Office 365 even if I already have it. Yes, it's dumb, but you can disable it in Settings. > On one computer the File Manager is slowed to a crawl, the image viewer slows to a crawl if I hit left or right arrow keys. While I'm not going to say you're not experiencing this, this isn't something I've seen personally. So it isn't a universal issue. > The built-in antivirus has a feature to send “suspicious” files to Microsoft, with zero audit trail of what it sends over, and its on by default. Audit trail is in Event Viewer. > The various UI inconsistencies, theres weird XP goop mixed with the modern UI. There is even Windows 3.x UI mixed in. This hasn't changed and is nothing new, nor interesting. > I tried to make a new user account one time and it told me I couldnt because I needed to use another feature within Windows to do so, Creating a new account doesn't require a Windows Feature to be added. Compmgr.msc. > Everything you type into the start menu goes into a Microsoft backend. No. Just wrong. It sounds like you should educate yourself on Windows. And I did specifically mention Pro.