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The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic
- monster_truck 4mo agoHow can I buy some? For science
- functionmouse 4mo agovisit China
- monster_truck 4mo agosurely there is somebody already there who can mail me these currently legal mushrooms
- functionmouse 4mo agoif there is they should be stopped
- bethekidyouwant 4mo agoIt sounds like it’s almost impossible to differentiate them from other blue bruising boletes, so by chance in an asian market only.
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- ggm 4mo ago"seeing little people" is such a hyper specific visual effect, it begs questions. Since I am well aware how my mind fills in gaps in the visual field with attempts to map what I would expect or want to see (try holding your head rigidly ahead and look with a steady gaze at a near field pattern like floor tiles to experience your brain filling in the missing pieces in the field) I ask: what could this actually be? For instance, when I get (got: my blood pressure is treated) migraine visual effects, I would say "lightning bolt" but thats just a textual analogue/simile. What I actually saw was more complex than that: lightning is white. My effect was polychrome. When I had posterior vitreous detachment (PVD), the visual effect was as if I was looking at TV "snow" from the analogue days, combined with a shape unquestionably like red blood cells. Was I seeing blood? I am told no: I was seeing small points inside the focal zone of my eye, below the minimum resolving size, and the optical path turns points into rings. So is "little people" moving stimulation of the nerve endings interpreted as "walking" and a strong vertical alignment for some reason? Is the colour an aspect of rods and cones being involved, or the nerves going to rods and cones being differentially effected?
- altairprime 4mo agoOne wonders how it would affect someone who has been blind from birth: would they hear little people? Would their optic system be activated by the unknown compounds? etc.
- ElProlactin 4mo agoThere ought to be funding for a study like this.
- allears 4mo agoI've heard of this before, including a first person account, and the effects are apparently that specific. Lots of people consistently report the same thing. It's not just moving patterns, it's actually a bunch of tiny people running around, climbing on the furniture, etc.
- ggm 4mo agoI'd be asking if the back record had hyper specific reports of people in clothing which was period appropriate for how "little people" are ideated, or if instead they were tiny angels and daemons (or skeletons) because how you culturally project what you see would inform how they describe it. I very much doubt that in future times, people will be reporting seeing tiny people in North Face fleece tops and leggings, or with Asymmetrical haircuts and goth make-up but you never know..
- nilamo 4mo agoThis sounds like the HBO Common Side Effects almost to a tee
- bozhark 4mo agoYou’re thinking perception When it’s not perceived from a visual cue
- not_kurt_godel 4mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogenic_bolete_mushroom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogenic_bolete_mushroom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilliputian_hallucination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilliputian_hallucination
- vibcdingenjoyer 4mo agoProbably DMT clockwork elves.
- functionmouse 4mo agonah these just seem like normal wood elves, perhaps of the keebler variety
- functionmouse 4mo agomaybe it's not a hallucination; maybe the minish have simply made it their mission to troll people who eat their favorite mushroom
- SV_BubbleTime 4mo agoSaying you’ll trip off it is a surefire way to drive up its use.
- mike_hock 4mo agoMaybe they're all over the place and have a technology that prevents us from seeing them, and the mushroom just interferes with that tech.
- s3tt3mbr1n1 4mo agoThere is no Antimemetics Division…
- reedf1 4mo agoHuh weird. When I have a high fever, usually from the flu, sometimes I start to hallucinate. The typical hallucination is lots of "little people", usually doing something I don't like. I wonder if it triggers a similar part of the brain?
- hypercube33 4mo agoI don't get that I just end up with random 1 minute long looping nightmares
- jayelem 4mo agoWikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogenic_bolete_mushroom#Constituents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogenic_bolete_mushroom...) points to a Hamilton Morris podcast (https://www.patreon.com/HamiltonMorris/posts/64560770?utm_campaign=postshare_fan https://www.patreon.com/HamiltonMorris/posts/64560770?utm_ca... paywalled) where Hamilton and Dennis McKenna discuss the mushroom.
- hmokiguess 4mo agoSmurfs?
- hoopla_ching 4mo agoThe wild part isn't just that the compound is unknown, it's how specific the hallucination is. 96% of people see tiny figures, and there's a third-century Chinese text describing the same mushroom letting you "see a little person." That kind of consistency across centuries feels less like a random trip and more like it's reliably tripping some existing brain circuit. Worth noting micropsia ("Alice in Wonderland syndrome") shows up in migraines and epilepsy too, so maybe the mushroom just hits a failure mode that's already wired in. Still, "evolved its own psychoactive pathway, and it's closer to porcini than to anything in Psilocybe" is a great sentence.
- blincoln 4mo agoWhen I was very young (around 3 or 4) I woke up in the middle of the night and went downstairs to climb into my parents' bed. After some time, I could see a small-scale but very extensive science fiction space base on top of the bed covers, as if the bed covers were the surface of a moon or planet. It was populated, and in motion - rockets launching from gantries as I watched, etc. I know it wasn't a dream, because my parents remember me describing it to them as it happened. I've never experienced anything like that again, and never heard of anything like it until reading about these mushrooms last year. It definitely seems like an odd quirk of the brain that it apparently has a ”1990s god video game" (e.g. Populous) visualization mode. There's some neat sci fi novel potential there, though, like it being a remnant of some kind of distant ancestor with a hive mind that could synthesize the visual input of multiple members into a disembodied third-person camera point of view.
- SamualPD25 4mo agoSame thing here. About 8, Mickey Mouse, 2D, 3-4" high, dancing on the back wall of a tent (in the middle of the forest). Have never had another hallucination--that I know of.
- anon291 4mo agoThat's because the little people are clearly real and are mad someone stole their house
- ChiperSoft 4mo agoEvery time I read about this I find myself asking what the little people are doing, and articles never answer it.
- moi2388 4mo agoIt does? “ Patients describe colourful figures only a few centimetres tall, marching, dancing and climbing over the furniture.”
- jdthedisciple 4mo agoTbf I would also want to know more: Like to what end are they moving around? And what do they look like exactly? Like people you know from your life? Wearing ordinary outfits? Do they communicate amongst themselves, like little groups of people? Do they gesticulate? And when you see them, can you like, focus on a particular one and follow him around? Etc etc...
- moi2388 4mo agoThe hallmark symptom of these mushrooms are Lilliputian hallucinations. This is a clinically defined psychiatric condition characterized by the perception of numerous tiny human, animal, or fantasy-like figures in one’s environment. They’re often very realistic, three dimensional figures said to be colorfully dressed, very mobile, and interacting with the physical world—like climbing up chairs or tables, or clinging to surfaces.
- tsimionescu 4mo agoObviously they're making an air chrysalis.
- Tossrock 4mo agoA 1Q86 reference, on HN? I never thought I'd see the day.
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- OhioMan2943 4mo agoI'd love it if someone went through all of the historic fairy tales and folklore and tried to validly link local psychoactive and hallucinogenic plants to them.
- IAmBroom 4mo agoThat would be the sociological equivalent of saying "Zoom in, enhance, zoom in, enhance" forty times in a row, until you can identify the shooter from a reflection off a raindrop. "Where are mushrooms with these chemicals found?" "In ~50% of arable land on Earth." "When was the earliest known rendition of this fairytale?" "8-10 generations ago."