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Someone working a job they freely chose is not being exploited. This word is losing all meaning. Amazon pays more with better benefits than most other warehouse

by imgabe 4mo ago

Someone working a job they freely chose is not being exploited. This word is losing all meaning. Amazon pays more with better benefits than most other warehouse jobs.

canelonesdeverd 4mo ago
If someone could pick and choose jobs they wouldn't be a warehouse worker, come on now.
- imgabe 4mo ago
  Sure if people could just pick whatever they want we'd all be sitting on the beach having drinks with supermodels, but then who's going to make the drinks? People can pick among various jobs. If they picked warehouse worker that was the best option available to them. Taking it away means they have to choose something worse. And a job is not a lifetime commitment. Warehouse worker may be a stop on the way to something else. I worked in a warehouse for a while, now I don't. People are not static blobs.
  - paulryanrogers 4mo ago
    Maybe it's Amazon's predatory pricing and regulatory capture that drove most other nicer job opportunities out of business. I used to work retail selling software and games as a teen. It was a nice starter job talking about the things I liked most. There were 7 places I could do that back in the day. Now the kids have only 3 such options in my area. Many areas now have none.
    - imgabe 4mo ago
      Now the kids can learn to code online or post videos on YouTube or do a hundred other things we couldn’t do. The world moves on.
      - paulryanrogers 4mo ago
        YouTube pays far below minimum wage for all but a tiny fraction of creators. All 7 places I could have worked (doing what I enjoyed) as a teen paid above minimum wage. > Now the kids can learn to code online Starter coding jobs are increasingly rare in light of AI. > or do a hundred other things we couldn’t do Can you name a few that pay at least minimum wage?
WalterBright 4mo ago
Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's the other way around!
callmeal 4mo ago
> Someone working a job they freely chose is not being exploited. This article from 2022 has something to say about that: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/22/amazon-workers-shortage-leaked-memo-warehouse https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/22/amazon-wo... Amazon is right to be worried – its staff turnover rate is astronomical. Before the pandemic, Amazon was losing about 3% of its workforce weekly, or 150% annually. By contrast the annual average turnover in transportation, warehousing and utilities was 49% in 2021 and in retail it was 64.6%, less than half of Amazon’s turnover.
- imgabe 4mo ago
  So you mean workers who find it disagreeable freely leave to do something else? Hmm, doesn't sound like exploitation to me.
  - nullocator 4mo ago
    "People are exploited by this organization so they leave" "Can't you tell how unexploited all these people are, just look at them leave!"
    - imgabe 4mo ago
      "A job had requirements I didn't want to do, so I left and didn't do them" "help, help, I'm being exploited!"

by imgabe 4mo ago

Someone working a job they freely chose is not being exploited. This word is losing all meaning. Amazon pays more with better benefits than most other warehouse jobs.

canelonesdeverd 4mo ago

If someone could pick and choose jobs they wouldn't be a warehouse worker, come on now.

imgabe 4mo ago
Sure if people could just pick whatever they want we'd all be sitting on the beach having drinks with supermodels, but then who's going to make the drinks? People can pick among various jobs. If they picked warehouse worker that was the best option available to them. Taking it away means they have to choose something worse. And a job is not a lifetime commitment. Warehouse worker may be a stop on the way to something else. I worked in a warehouse for a while, now I don't. People are not static blobs.
- paulryanrogers 4mo ago
  Maybe it's Amazon's predatory pricing and regulatory capture that drove most other nicer job opportunities out of business. I used to work retail selling software and games as a teen. It was a nice starter job talking about the things I liked most. There were 7 places I could do that back in the day. Now the kids have only 3 such options in my area. Many areas now have none.
  - imgabe 4mo ago
    Now the kids can learn to code online or post videos on YouTube or do a hundred other things we couldn’t do. The world moves on.
    - paulryanrogers 4mo ago
      YouTube pays far below minimum wage for all but a tiny fraction of creators. All 7 places I could have worked (doing what I enjoyed) as a teen paid above minimum wage. > Now the kids can learn to code online Starter coding jobs are increasingly rare in light of AI. > or do a hundred other things we couldn’t do Can you name a few that pay at least minimum wage?

WalterBright 4mo ago

Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's the other way around!

callmeal 4mo ago

> Someone working a job they freely chose is not being exploited. This article from 2022 has something to say about that: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/22/amazon-workers-shortage-leaked-memo-warehouse https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/22/amazon-wo... Amazon is right to be worried – its staff turnover rate is astronomical. Before the pandemic, Amazon was losing about 3% of its workforce weekly, or 150% annually. By contrast the annual average turnover in transportation, warehousing and utilities was 49% in 2021 and in retail it was 64.6%, less than half of Amazon’s turnover.

imgabe 4mo ago
So you mean workers who find it disagreeable freely leave to do something else? Hmm, doesn't sound like exploitation to me.
- nullocator 4mo ago
  "People are exploited by this organization so they leave" "Can't you tell how unexploited all these people are, just look at them leave!"
  - imgabe 4mo ago
    "A job had requirements I didn't want to do, so I left and didn't do them" "help, help, I'm being exploited!"