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> The alt right playbook isn’t identical to other political movements Straw man. Nobody claimed this. Just that the factor identified, politics by attention ec

> The alt right playbook isn’t identical to other political movements Straw man. Nobody claimed this. Just that the factor identified, politics by attention economics as a result of social media, is not unique to the alt right.

Retric 5mo ago
> this is the basis for all non-retail politics. My point was there’s an internal disconnect inside the alt right movement which makes this play out in very distinct ways. Dig into say China’s political to social media connections for some wildly different dynamics. > is not unique to the alt right Sure, that I can agree with but it’s a long way from your earlier blanket statement.
- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
  > Dig into say China’s political to social media connections China regulates social media in a way we don’t. The fundamental dynamic doesn’t apply there.
  - Retric 5mo ago
    Even the US regulates social media. UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics. First past the post vs representative representation create some really interesting points of divergence.
    - JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
      > Even the US regulates social media Federally? Not really. > UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics Could you expand on this?
      - Retric 5mo ago
        > Federally? Not really. TikTok is just one of many examples where the federal government has played a significant role. I mean you can debate about how relevant terrorism, CSAM, etc are here, but lots of debatably minor changes still add up. > Could you expand on this? It’s a lot to try and summarize in a comment, but just as an example. UK elections can take place early when a coalition breaks up this places a lot more power in the hands of voters and thus social media mid cycle. In the US passing unpopular legislation early means it’s less likely to be remembered next election cycle.

Retric 5mo ago

> this is the basis for all non-retail politics. My point was there’s an internal disconnect inside the alt right movement which makes this play out in very distinct ways. Dig into say China’s political to social media connections for some wildly different dynamics. > is not unique to the alt right Sure, that I can agree with but it’s a long way from your earlier blanket statement.

JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> Dig into say China’s political to social media connections China regulates social media in a way we don’t. The fundamental dynamic doesn’t apply there.
- Retric 5mo ago
  Even the US regulates social media. UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics. First past the post vs representative representation create some really interesting points of divergence.
  - JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
    > Even the US regulates social media Federally? Not really. > UK, Germany, South Africa, and Brazil are all interesting because of just how different yet similar a role social media plays in politics Could you expand on this?
    - Retric 5mo ago
      > Federally? Not really. TikTok is just one of many examples where the federal government has played a significant role. I mean you can debate about how relevant terrorism, CSAM, etc are here, but lots of debatably minor changes still add up. > Could you expand on this? It’s a lot to try and summarize in a comment, but just as an example. UK elections can take place early when a coalition breaks up this places a lot more power in the hands of voters and thus social media mid cycle. In the US passing unpopular legislation early means it’s less likely to be remembered next election cycle.