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Ideally you'd be able to wrap up your weird fetish self porn along with your subversive documents. If they 'ask' for the password, you give them the password fo

by rmc 14y ago

Ideally you'd be able to wrap up your weird fetish self porn along with your subversive documents. If they 'ask' for the password, you give them the password for your fetish porn and break down in tears telling them you're a pervert. Then they have a decision, are you telling the whole truth? They don't know if they don't know anything more. Unknonw unknowns.

arethuza 14y ago
What about the unpleasant scenario where all you have in your encrypted archive is your porn and they keep torturing you to extract the details for the hidden content when it doesn't actually exist? Any empty space in a TrueCrypt file that isn't being used for files visible at the top level could presumably contain hidden content - how do you prove it isn't?
- rmc 14y ago
  Well, you obviously can't prove that there is no more data. However if you have a standard encrypted file, the government knows that there's something you're not telling them. However if you've already given them one key, they can't be sure that there's any more keys for you to give. So they don't know whether to give up. You can get more secure and have 3 levels, 1: backup of important, sensitive documents (like a scan of your passport & banking details, which you obviously just don't want to leave lying around), 2: Homemade fetish porn 3: Subversive materials.
- lucb1e 14y ago
  Good point. You can't I guess. But when the government starts doing this, we've degraded to a state where you are tortured until you confess, regardless of whether you did it.
  - acdha 14y ago
    If you live in the United States, you live in that state – it's just unevenly distributed. (Beyond the obvious Gitmo examples, consider the long list of wrongful convictiobs based on coerced confessions / testimony – I'd sleep easier if there was consistently harsh punishment for those responsible)
  - alan_cx 14y ago
    Yes. Welcome to 21st century government paranoia, control and self service. Never forget, they only do this to protect us... Which is true. The public go completely OTT bat shit mental the split second something happens, and governments respond with equally bat shit mental policies. And "we" love it. "We" vote for it. When the general public say no on mass it will stop and be reversed. Sad fact is, "we" support this, torture and all, as long as we have money for throwaway Chinese consumer garbage.
    - iterationx 14y ago
      This 6x6 cell will keep you safe from terrorists.
    - lucb1e 14y ago
      Wait, we vote for it? There isn't a single political party whose digital agenda I agree with, how am I supposed to vote better without going into politics and starting a political party myself?

by rmc 14y ago

arethuza 14y ago

What about the unpleasant scenario where all you have in your encrypted archive is your porn and they keep torturing you to extract the details for the hidden content when it doesn't actually exist? Any empty space in a TrueCrypt file that isn't being used for files visible at the top level could presumably contain hidden content - how do you prove it isn't?

rmc 14y ago
Well, you obviously can't prove that there is no more data. However if you have a standard encrypted file, the government knows that there's something you're not telling them. However if you've already given them one key, they can't be sure that there's any more keys for you to give. So they don't know whether to give up. You can get more secure and have 3 levels, 1: backup of important, sensitive documents (like a scan of your passport & banking details, which you obviously just don't want to leave lying around), 2: Homemade fetish porn 3: Subversive materials.
lucb1e 14y ago
Good point. You can't I guess. But when the government starts doing this, we've degraded to a state where you are tortured until you confess, regardless of whether you did it.
- acdha 14y ago
  If you live in the United States, you live in that state – it's just unevenly distributed. (Beyond the obvious Gitmo examples, consider the long list of wrongful convictiobs based on coerced confessions / testimony – I'd sleep easier if there was consistently harsh punishment for those responsible)
- alan_cx 14y ago
  Yes. Welcome to 21st century government paranoia, control and self service. Never forget, they only do this to protect us... Which is true. The public go completely OTT bat shit mental the split second something happens, and governments respond with equally bat shit mental policies. And "we" love it. "We" vote for it. When the general public say no on mass it will stop and be reversed. Sad fact is, "we" support this, torture and all, as long as we have money for throwaway Chinese consumer garbage.
  - iterationx 14y ago
    This 6x6 cell will keep you safe from terrorists.
  - lucb1e 14y ago
    Wait, we vote for it? There isn't a single political party whose digital agenda I agree with, how am I supposed to vote better without going into politics and starting a political party myself?