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I should think learning about history should lead to a desire for citizens to be able to quietly make weapons at home given the many documented cases of governm
by ndriscoll 4mo ago
I should think learning about history should lead to a desire for citizens to be able to quietly make weapons at home given the many documented cases of governments across the world mass murdering their own citizens (or foreign governments invading and genociding). What's the point of telling people the wrongs of their oppressors while simultaneously disempowering them from doing anything about it or preparing to defend themselves in the future?
So yes they're not just comparable, but two sides of the same coin.
- dash2 4mo agoThe idea that Chinese citizens could’ve prevented the Tiananmen massacre with a bunch of home printed AK-47s is silly. The government had tanks. The same applies in the US.
- ndriscoll 4mo agoYes, strawmen are silly. You don't prevent the Tiananmen massacre or fight tanks; you murder an officer (or his family) while he's out shopping.
- dash2 4mo agoTo be clear, do you think that the appropriate response to Tiananmen Square is to murder policemen out shopping? What is that supposed to achieve?
- ndriscoll 4mo agoPolice or military. Whoever is doing the oppressing. It could also be their families at home or school. It makes them aware that joining an oppressive force is likely to lead to retaliation and makes them reconsider. When almost half the population is armed, as in the US, they'd have to always be paranoid about being shot by any random person. Or if they're mass murdering their citizens and you think you might be one of their victims, you can at least take some of them with you first. The point is if you're e.g. the victim of a genocide or other mass killing, you don't just lie down and hope it stops. You recognise that you're in a war. Denial isn't going to help.