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What I don't understand about building a space data center is that you need radiators to release heat. Otherwise, it will become a space thermos. What's even mo
by jdw64 5mo ago
What I don't understand about building a space data center is that you need radiators to release heat. Otherwise, it will become a space thermos. What's even more incomprehensible is that you would need specialized equipment for space radiation, and GPUs are consumables. To make that profitable, you would need pricing that is many times higher than the cost of a regular data center. I don't understand why there are people who actually fall for this. If I say this, people will call me someone who mocks others' challenges, but it seems like they're saying physical problems can be overcome too easily.
- BadBadJellyBean 5mo agoI have the feeling that the only reason that might actually be done is to escape from any kind of jurisdiction. In space no one can hear you compute.
- jdw64 5mo agoIf that's the case, wouldn't it be better to just put it in the desert? Realistically, if noise from calculations is the problem, placing it in a remote area would be more economical.
- afavour 5mo agoThe desert is still under someone’s jurisdiction. Perhaps the best on-planet comparison is creating a man made island in the middle of the ocean.
- titanomachy 5mo agoThis also seems more sensible than space, although I guess if you’re in international waters then no military will protect you and someone could eventually destroy it. Way more organizations have the ability to blow up a boat is compared to a space station.
- _puk 5mo agoIt's a play on "in space no-one can hear you scream", not a literal "compute is so noisy we need to go to space" The jurisdiction issue is the bigger one. Deserts don't solve this; International waters, possibly do, but then you've got other issues.
- jdw64 5mo agoIs that so? How embarrassing. I'm not a native English speaker, so I didn't understand the metaphor.
- mkl 5mo agoThe Outer Space Treaty [1] says "A State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such object", so no escaping jurisdiction. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty_of_1967#Article_VIII https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty_of_1967#Ar...
- LargoLasskhyfv 5mo agoResurrect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_(rocket) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_(rocket) , launch it 'anonymously' from international waters?
- mkl 5mo agoIt doesn't say anything about launch location, and you'd need to ship it out there from a country using a large (registered) boat. That loophole won't work.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5mo agoStaying with exploiting loopholes, that happens all the time with ships, while at sea, in international waters. I think I've read something about similar things happening with new airliners for fiscal reasons. OFC that doesn't really erase the track, but one could engage in rented or owned 'lawfare' by then?
- XorNot 5mo agoIt is worth noting that this is also identical to the way in which international waters works as well, so there's plenty of legal precedent. But it's also irrelevant: all your infrastructure supporting such a thing, including your ability to fund it, is on Earth, in someone's jurisdiction. The US government is hardly going to say "well the datacenter is in space, guess there's nothing we can do about the owner who lives in California..."
- notahacker 5mo agoYou don't get that with the current plans which require them to have FCC licences and be constantly replacing them by launching from the United States though...