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>Amsterdam and Enschede are banning wide-tyre fat bikes from some central locations or parks What's the reason? Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast, and e-bikes are
by orbital-decay 4mo ago
>Amsterdam and Enschede are banning wide-tyre fat bikes from some central locations or parks
What's the reason? Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast, and e-bikes are fast in any case.
- 4gotunameagain 4mo agoThe reason is that the fat bikes are widely popular with young delinquents, typically of the immigrant kind. They have the absolute worst reputation around Amsterdam.
- reacharavindh 4mo agoYou could’ve said what you said except the “immigrant kind” bit. I see enough Dutch assholes on fat bikes just as well. No need to be xenophobic here.
- junglistguy 4mo ago[dead]
- pineaux 4mo agoNah, its almost for sure xenophobic and classist. I think fat bikes are the best thing that happened to amsterdam because all the scooters disappeared. All the poor people that used to ride scooters are now riding fat bikes. Its better for their health and their wallet. Yes they tend to be a bit less educated and socialised, but they were like that when they drove scooters as well. Banning fat bikes is gesture politics.
- lifestyleguru 4mo agoThey drive fatbikes instead of road scooters, of the 25kmh limit ones eligible for cycling lanes?
- 4gotunameagain 4mo agoThere is zero phobia involved, just facts. I imagine you count second generation immigrants as Dutch assholes ? And don't get me wrong, I am not a huge fan of Dutch people. But I am even less of a fan of macho Moroccan kids.
- ricardobeat 4mo ago> Ordinary fatbikes aren't fast Most fatbikes have a much more powerful motor than a regular e-bike, and can be used without pedaling at all. They are listed as 250W, but it's actually a software-limited 750W motor. Local vendors provide unlock instructions along with the bike. Instead of the 25km/h legal limit, they can go 40-50km/h: https://v8fatbike.com/how-to-unlock-ouxi-v8-speed-limit/ https://v8fatbike.com/how-to-unlock-ouxi-v8-speed-limit/ It's just a motorcycle in disguise. Then, to make matters worse, they weigh 30-40KG + two 12-year-olds on top - that, combined with reckless riding, can do a lot more damage than a boring cycling incident.
- orbital-decay 4mo agoI mean ordinary as non-electric. I know what an electric fatbike can do of course. The article makes it ambiguous as it's talking about the common limit for all cyclists.
- ricardobeat 4mo agoAh, there is no such a thing in Amsterdam (you might be thinking of MTB bikes with fat tires?). They’re all electric.
- lifestyleguru 4mo ago> MTB bikes with fat tires These are undrivable as a city commute, not to mention the stealing risk as they're usually expensive. I knew some people who attempted and gave up after few weeks.
- lifestyleguru 4mo agoPeople drive fatbikes from solely selfish reasons. They want something heavier and larger than others, they want others to give way and be afraid of collision.