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Can't wait to try this on Mac (English manual install intstructions at https://github.com/kekcleader/FreeOberon/commit/489c5a929bf950cd8feb723d0080d0d4f4f4470c

by tomcam 4mo ago

Can't wait to try this on Mac (English manual install intstructions at https://github.com/kekcleader/FreeOberon/commit/489c5a929bf950cd8feb723d0080d0d4f4f4470c https://github.com/kekcleader/FreeOberon/commit/489c5a929bf9...). I feel like Oberon is very much worth a look for people interested in small, powerful languages.

WillAdams 4mo ago
The version which I would really like to see would be a native distribution for the Raspberry Pi of the Oberon Workstation environment --- apparently there is a problem with the drivers which makes porting difficult.
- eterps 4mo ago
  Oberon System 3 works on Raspberry Pi: https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3Native https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3Native
  - WillAdams 4mo ago
    That is new since the last time I looked into this. _Very_ cool, and I know what I'm going to do w/ my son's old rPi3 --- any plans to update for the 5?
    - Rochus 4mo ago
      > any plans to update for the 5? It currently works on the 2b, 3b and Zero 2; the latter was my actual target because it is a very nice and still lean board available for ~15$ worldwide at least until 2030, and meets very well with the Oberon philosophy. With models like the 4 or 5 series, the Pi goes more and more away from its original leanness. So, currently I'm trying to migrate the system to the ESP32-P4 platform, which seem like the perfect fit for Oberon system, specifically the Olimex board with a HDMI socket.
      - Sunspark 4mo ago
        ESP32 is a great SOC. Watch out for RAM issues though. I have an e-reader using an ESP32 that only has 180kb or so of usable RAM which makes things very difficult to work with. You will need to specify that it has to be the versions that have addressable RAM. Unless of course, all updates are entirely firmware and the limited memory is just to hold the text editor buffer.
        Rochus 4mo ago
        The Olimex board has 768KB RAM and 32MB PSRAM, more than enough. The original Ceres only had 2 MB of DRAM and 256 KB of VRAM.

by tomcam 4mo ago

WillAdams 4mo ago

The version which I would really like to see would be a native distribution for the Raspberry Pi of the Oberon Workstation environment --- apparently there is a problem with the drivers which makes porting difficult.

eterps 4mo ago
Oberon System 3 works on Raspberry Pi: https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3Native https://github.com/rochus-keller/OberonSystem3Native
- WillAdams 4mo ago
  That is new since the last time I looked into this. _Very_ cool, and I know what I'm going to do w/ my son's old rPi3 --- any plans to update for the 5?
  - Rochus 4mo ago
    > any plans to update for the 5? It currently works on the 2b, 3b and Zero 2; the latter was my actual target because it is a very nice and still lean board available for ~15$ worldwide at least until 2030, and meets very well with the Oberon philosophy. With models like the 4 or 5 series, the Pi goes more and more away from its original leanness. So, currently I'm trying to migrate the system to the ESP32-P4 platform, which seem like the perfect fit for Oberon system, specifically the Olimex board with a HDMI socket.
    - Sunspark 4mo ago
      ESP32 is a great SOC. Watch out for RAM issues though. I have an e-reader using an ESP32 that only has 180kb or so of usable RAM which makes things very difficult to work with. You will need to specify that it has to be the versions that have addressable RAM. Unless of course, all updates are entirely firmware and the limited memory is just to hold the text editor buffer.
      - Rochus 4mo ago
        The Olimex board has 768KB RAM and 32MB PSRAM, more than enough. The original Ceres only had 2 MB of DRAM and 256 KB of VRAM.