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As a gay dude I will never take a job in Texas. Companies may enjoy the lax regulatory environment and favorable tax laws, but there are many bright people who

As a gay dude I will never take a job in Texas. Companies may enjoy the lax regulatory environment and favorable tax laws, but there are many bright people who - for one of a NUMBER of reasons - will never move there. It is repressive and frightening. Who knows if that will be enough to move the needle on any of this, but companies aren't just buildings and incorporation paperwork, they're also the people.

testing22321 4mo ago
Same thoughts as the father of a young girl. I don’t want her to have less rights.
- jleyank 4mo ago
  Some folks find Howdy Arabia to be a pleasant, rewarding place to live. To me, I think roughly half of the US working population would dispute this, as they would dispute a discussion of any other place. It's just that the disputants change based on where you're talking about. It's warm. It's dry, and there's some evidence the power system isn't up to the task. Their call.
  - gigatexal 4mo ago
    "Howdy Arabia" is gold. I legit laughed out loud. I'd much rather companies that incorporated in Delaware than the Wild West that is Texas: I want to have peace of mind knowing the company is not trying to get away with shady stuff like Elon is with his companies.
    - jleyank 4mo ago
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  - testing22321 4mo ago
    > It's just that the disputants change based on where you're talking about. It would be good if everyone agreed that taking away basic human rights from women is a bad thing, but I guess were way past that.
    - b0rtb0rt 4mo ago
      what “basic human rights” do women not have in texas?
      - Timon3 4mo ago
        The most obvious recent example is the right to receive lifesaving medical treatment. It's no coincidence that between 2019 and 2023, there was "a 33% increase in maternal mortality rates in Texas, compared with a decrease of 7.5% nationally during the same time," and the "rate of sepsis shot up more than 50% for women hospitalized when they lost their pregnancies in the second trimester."[0] If you have a non-viable pregnancy, but there's still a heartbeat, Texas will try to force you to carry to term anyways. In the best case this causes you immense emotional suffering, in the worst case it means that doctors will often hold back lifesaving medical care until your life is in imminent danger - but waiting this long causes your chance of injury/death to rise sharply. Unfortunately Texas also doesn't want you to receive this lifesaving medical care out of state, so anyone helping you is liable to be sued for $10,000[1]. No matter what your position is regarding the intent of the law, we can hopefully all agree that the changes in maternal mortality are horrible, and that nobody should be forced to risk death just so they can see their non-viable pregnancy die before their eyes[2]. [0]: https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-maternal-mortality-analysis-methodology https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-maternal-mortality-... [1]: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/texas-abortion-law-10-000-penalty-could-incentivize-bounty-hunters-to-make-tens-of-thousands-of-dollars-11630609738 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/texas-abortion-law-10-000-... [2]: https://www.ms.now/health-mindset/was-torture-texas-mom-recounts-denied-abortion-doomed-pregnancy-rcna161450 https://www.ms.now/health-mindset/was-torture-texas-mom-reco...
- EPWN3D 4mo ago
  Fewer rights.
  - margalabargala 4mo ago
    "Less" isn't incorrect here.
- vitalyan1234 4mo ago
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cyanydeez 4mo ago
as a normal human being who enjoys social safety nets and don't want to shut down local pools just because black people are allowed in them, I also don't like texas.
- MAustriaGA 4mo ago
  [flagged]
  - cyanydeez 4mo ago
    what a meaningless at best, statement.
    - MAustriaGA 4mo ago
      Why are you replying with meaningless statements to comments you think are at best meaningless?
      - cyanydeez 4mo ago
        i dont know ustria, why dont you like pools.
        MAustriaGA 4mo ago
        Everyone, including “ustrians,” loves the pools where the people who are swimming are self-governed civilized individuals.
moomoo11 4mo ago
california forever i hope the right people and companies leave and go deal with high humidity and heat waves
- sbmthakur 4mo ago
  Y'all are welcome to Washington if you can stand the gloom.
  - Telemakhos 4mo ago
    People who have lived in Washington for a long time do not, in fact, welcome Californians to Washington, nor is Washington especially warm and welcoming to anyone else. The Seattle Freeze is real.
  - moomoo11 4mo ago
    the point is that there is no place like california. seattle is nice but i would pick sf 100 out of 100 times
  - MAustriaGA 4mo ago
    [flagged]
scoofy 4mo ago
People who "refuse to move" to Texas honestly have no idea what they're talking about. Yes, you probably wouldn't like it, but it's certainly not what you think it is. I grew up in Texas (mostly Austin), and later in life moved to California, and genuinely can't stand the navel-gazey "I've never been there but I know I'd hate it" type of attitude that prevails here. Texas is a gerrymandered purple state, not a red state. It's just that the state is the California's bogey-man, because Californians don't actually want to face the fact that we have major problems with long-term affordability and the ability to build a life for middle-class folks (perhaps less appreciated by the disproportionately high-income folks on this forum). Every single urban area in Texas is now heavily aligned with the Democratic party, and the vast majority of those areas are affordable places to build a life and build wealth. When I was growing up in Austin, it had the second highest per-capita gay population in America after San Francisco. Houston had a lesbian mayor. In many cities Spanish is the dominant language spoken. Texas cities are not some place where minorities have to fear for their safety. The reason not to move to Texas is that it's a suburban hellscape, and you'll be stuck in traffic for more hours a day than you'd like to admit. I left after pushing for transportation alternatives at Austin City Hall, and the result of that traffic mitigation was an express lane down the highway. Texas is, in large part, following the development pattern of Southern California. Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso are all lovely towns, full of vibrancy, amazing culture, friendly people, reasonable weather most of the year, wonderful food, and reasonable cost of living. Politics are an issue, but again, that all hangs on a 2%-5% swing in a census year, and the entire state could end up redrawn as 50-50 split. I just want folks on the American coasts to remember that a big part of why Texas is branded as "that really bad place" is exactly because folks on the coast refuse to look in the mirror and fix the problems of affordability, wealth inequality, and clean energy that Texas has addressed. Instead, they've made Texas a bogey man that is "very bad" so that you can't point to things like rapid development of housing and renewables as actually the way to fix affordability.
- californical 4mo ago
  Honestly it may be 50-50 purple in population, but the policies are what affect people the most. I’m not even worried about Democrat vs Republican, as I’m not associated to either party, and both have their share of crazy. There are a number of laws in Texas that make it a non-option for many of us.
sleepyguy 4mo ago
Where the hell are you getting your information? Texas has the second-largest LGBTQ+ population in the United States, trailing only California. An estimated 1.8 million LGBTQ+ adults reside in the state. Demographically, this includes approximately 735,000 gay or lesbian adults, over 1.2 million bisexual individuals, and nearly 93,000 transgender
- xboxnolifes 4mo ago
  The second largest state by population has the second largest population of a subset of the population? You don't say.
- Arodex 4mo ago
  The Southern states had the largest black population. Would you have told a black person it is fine to go live there at the height of Jim Crow?
DivingForGold 4mo ago
Thank you for NOT coming to Texas at all, we have plenty in Austin. 4th generation Texan.

testing22321 4mo ago

Same thoughts as the father of a young girl. I don’t want her to have less rights.

jleyank 4mo ago
Some folks find Howdy Arabia to be a pleasant, rewarding place to live. To me, I think roughly half of the US working population would dispute this, as they would dispute a discussion of any other place. It's just that the disputants change based on where you're talking about. It's warm. It's dry, and there's some evidence the power system isn't up to the task. Their call.
- gigatexal 4mo ago
  "Howdy Arabia" is gold. I legit laughed out loud. I'd much rather companies that incorporated in Delaware than the Wild West that is Texas: I want to have peace of mind knowing the company is not trying to get away with shady stuff like Elon is with his companies.
  - jleyank 4mo ago
    [dead]
- testing22321 4mo ago
  > It's just that the disputants change based on where you're talking about. It would be good if everyone agreed that taking away basic human rights from women is a bad thing, but I guess were way past that.
  - b0rtb0rt 4mo ago
    what “basic human rights” do women not have in texas?
    - Timon3 4mo ago
      The most obvious recent example is the right to receive lifesaving medical treatment. It's no coincidence that between 2019 and 2023, there was "a 33% increase in maternal mortality rates in Texas, compared with a decrease of 7.5% nationally during the same time," and the "rate of sepsis shot up more than 50% for women hospitalized when they lost their pregnancies in the second trimester."[0] If you have a non-viable pregnancy, but there's still a heartbeat, Texas will try to force you to carry to term anyways. In the best case this causes you immense emotional suffering, in the worst case it means that doctors will often hold back lifesaving medical care until your life is in imminent danger - but waiting this long causes your chance of injury/death to rise sharply. Unfortunately Texas also doesn't want you to receive this lifesaving medical care out of state, so anyone helping you is liable to be sued for $10,000[1]. No matter what your position is regarding the intent of the law, we can hopefully all agree that the changes in maternal mortality are horrible, and that nobody should be forced to risk death just so they can see their non-viable pregnancy die before their eyes[2]. [0]: https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-maternal-mortality-analysis-methodology https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-maternal-mortality-... [1]: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/texas-abortion-law-10-000-penalty-could-incentivize-bounty-hunters-to-make-tens-of-thousands-of-dollars-11630609738 https://www.marketwatch.com/story/texas-abortion-law-10-000-... [2]: https://www.ms.now/health-mindset/was-torture-texas-mom-recounts-denied-abortion-doomed-pregnancy-rcna161450 https://www.ms.now/health-mindset/was-torture-texas-mom-reco...
EPWN3D 4mo ago
Fewer rights.
- margalabargala 4mo ago
  "Less" isn't incorrect here.
vitalyan1234 4mo ago
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cyanydeez 4mo ago

as a normal human being who enjoys social safety nets and don't want to shut down local pools just because black people are allowed in them, I also don't like texas.

MAustriaGA 4mo ago
[flagged]
- cyanydeez 4mo ago
  what a meaningless at best, statement.
  - MAustriaGA 4mo ago
    Why are you replying with meaningless statements to comments you think are at best meaningless?
    - cyanydeez 4mo ago
      i dont know ustria, why dont you like pools.
      - MAustriaGA 4mo ago
        Everyone, including “ustrians,” loves the pools where the people who are swimming are self-governed civilized individuals.

moomoo11 4mo ago

california forever i hope the right people and companies leave and go deal with high humidity and heat waves

sbmthakur 4mo ago
Y'all are welcome to Washington if you can stand the gloom.
- Telemakhos 4mo ago
  People who have lived in Washington for a long time do not, in fact, welcome Californians to Washington, nor is Washington especially warm and welcoming to anyone else. The Seattle Freeze is real.
- moomoo11 4mo ago
  the point is that there is no place like california. seattle is nice but i would pick sf 100 out of 100 times
- MAustriaGA 4mo ago
  [flagged]

scoofy 4mo ago

People who "refuse to move" to Texas honestly have no idea what they're talking about. Yes, you probably wouldn't like it, but it's certainly not what you think it is. I grew up in Texas (mostly Austin), and later in life moved to California, and genuinely can't stand the navel-gazey "I've never been there but I know I'd hate it" type of attitude that prevails here. Texas is a gerrymandered purple state, not a red state. It's just that the state is the California's bogey-man, because Californians don't actually want to face the fact that we have major problems with long-term affordability and the ability to build a life for middle-class folks (perhaps less appreciated by the disproportionately high-income folks on this forum). Every single urban area in Texas is now heavily aligned with the Democratic party, and the vast majority of those areas are affordable places to build a life and build wealth. When I was growing up in Austin, it had the second highest per-capita gay population in America after San Francisco. Houston had a lesbian mayor. In many cities Spanish is the dominant language spoken. Texas cities are not some place where minorities have to fear for their safety. The reason not to move to Texas is that it's a suburban hellscape, and you'll be stuck in traffic for more hours a day than you'd like to admit. I left after pushing for transportation alternatives at Austin City Hall, and the result of that traffic mitigation was an express lane down the highway. Texas is, in large part, following the development pattern of Southern California. Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso are all lovely towns, full of vibrancy, amazing culture, friendly people, reasonable weather most of the year, wonderful food, and reasonable cost of living. Politics are an issue, but again, that all hangs on a 2%-5% swing in a census year, and the entire state could end up redrawn as 50-50 split. I just want folks on the American coasts to remember that a big part of why Texas is branded as "that really bad place" is exactly because folks on the coast refuse to look in the mirror and fix the problems of affordability, wealth inequality, and clean energy that Texas has addressed. Instead, they've made Texas a bogey man that is "very bad" so that you can't point to things like rapid development of housing and renewables as actually the way to fix affordability.

californical 4mo ago
Honestly it may be 50-50 purple in population, but the policies are what affect people the most. I’m not even worried about Democrat vs Republican, as I’m not associated to either party, and both have their share of crazy. There are a number of laws in Texas that make it a non-option for many of us.

sleepyguy 4mo ago

Where the hell are you getting your information? Texas has the second-largest LGBTQ+ population in the United States, trailing only California. An estimated 1.8 million LGBTQ+ adults reside in the state. Demographically, this includes approximately 735,000 gay or lesbian adults, over 1.2 million bisexual individuals, and nearly 93,000 transgender

xboxnolifes 4mo ago
The second largest state by population has the second largest population of a subset of the population? You don't say.
Arodex 4mo ago
The Southern states had the largest black population. Would you have told a black person it is fine to go live there at the height of Jim Crow?

DivingForGold 4mo ago

Thank you for NOT coming to Texas at all, we have plenty in Austin. 4th generation Texan.