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You first gather the data while people don't know or care. Then you weaponize it later. It happened at least once not long ago in another country, seems not ove

You first gather the data while people don't know or care. Then you weaponize it later. It happened at least once not long ago in another country, seems not overreaction to be concerned about it

kajman 4mo ago
If this is a Nazi reference, Census data was used to send people to concentration camps here during the same era. Less awful than death camps, at least.
- sylos 4mo ago
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  - cwmoore 4mo ago
    They didn’t have drones.
  - voakbasda 4mo ago
    We easily could exceed their atrocities, because our modern capacities for inflicting harm are better, faster, and cheaper.
  - Loughla 4mo ago
    That's a very strong statement. I'm absolutely no fan of ICE or indefinite detention of people based on where they were born, but I'm not sure we have camps where we're committing genocide in the states. Nor do I see that in our future.
    - fc417fc802 4mo ago
      So if the death camps hadn't been for the purpose of genocide but rather for disposing of the poor or convicted criminals or perhaps those suspected of being illegal immigrants would that have made them okay? It seems to me that "I'm not sure we have camps where we're committing genocide in the states" is largely irrelevant to the issue at hand.
      - DaSHacka 4mo ago
        You're making the argument the Nazis only deported people? Sounds ironically more generous than the actual nazis claiming it either didn't happen or was 'deserved'.
        fc417fc802 4mo ago
        I'm making the argument that the ideological or political underpinnings of the nazi's actions aren't what's relevant when drawing parallels regarding concrete abuses. It doesn't matter why the people are being interned, what matters is any violations of human rights and the associated responses.
comex 4mo ago
It happened a year ago in this country, with IRS sharing data with ICE (breaking a longstanding policy of keeping taxpayer data private within the government).

You first gather the data while people don't know or care. Then you weaponize it later. It happened at least once not long ago in another country, seems not overreaction to be concerned about it

kajman 4mo ago

If this is a Nazi reference, Census data was used to send people to concentration camps here during the same era. Less awful than death camps, at least.

sylos 4mo ago
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- cwmoore 4mo ago
  They didn’t have drones.
- voakbasda 4mo ago
  We easily could exceed their atrocities, because our modern capacities for inflicting harm are better, faster, and cheaper.
- Loughla 4mo ago
  That's a very strong statement. I'm absolutely no fan of ICE or indefinite detention of people based on where they were born, but I'm not sure we have camps where we're committing genocide in the states. Nor do I see that in our future.
  - fc417fc802 4mo ago
    So if the death camps hadn't been for the purpose of genocide but rather for disposing of the poor or convicted criminals or perhaps those suspected of being illegal immigrants would that have made them okay? It seems to me that "I'm not sure we have camps where we're committing genocide in the states" is largely irrelevant to the issue at hand.
    - DaSHacka 4mo ago
      You're making the argument the Nazis only deported people? Sounds ironically more generous than the actual nazis claiming it either didn't happen or was 'deserved'.
      - fc417fc802 4mo ago
        I'm making the argument that the ideological or political underpinnings of the nazi's actions aren't what's relevant when drawing parallels regarding concrete abuses. It doesn't matter why the people are being interned, what matters is any violations of human rights and the associated responses.

comex 4mo ago

It happened a year ago in this country, with IRS sharing data with ICE (breaking a longstanding policy of keeping taxpayer data private within the government).