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Did you looked at the source ? For example for the pidigits bench: The PHP version use the GM extension http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?tes
by byroot 14y ago
Did you looked at the source ?
For example for the pidigits bench:
The PHP version use the GM extension
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=pidigits&lang=php&id=2 http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=pidi...
And Ruby do it in pure Ruby
http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=pidigits&lang=yarv&id=3 http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/program.php?test=pidi...
So basically it's a C vs Ruby benchmark.
Many peoples complained on the forum, take a look.
The Debian shootout is interesting, but don't take it as an absolute truth.
- pbiggar 14y agoThe Debian shootout has made some very questionable decisions, and the author has defended them by saying that you cant rely on the results. Which is definitely true.
- igouy 14y ago>> the author has defended them by saying that << Please show where I said that, or admit that you are putting words into my mouth.
- pbiggar 14y agoDo you believe that the shootout results reliably show that one language is faster than another?
- igouy 14y agoYou claimed I said "that you cant rely on the results". Please show where I said that, or admit that you are putting words into my mouth.
- pbiggar 14y agoThis is a discussion forum, not a court of law. I'm not about to trawl through 5 or 6 years of reddit and hacker news comments to find an exact quote. If you believe the shootout results can reliably show that one language is faster than another, say so. Otherwise, de facto you are saying you cant rely on the results.
- igouy 14y agoPeople here are smart enough to understand that you want to claim "you cant rely on the results" and to make your claim seem stronger you put your words in my mouth.
- pbiggar 14y agoWho's putting words in who's mouth now?
- igouy 14y agoYou told us "you cant rely on the results" and gave emphatic support to that claim -- "Which is definitely true." http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4851984 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4851984 Your words -- not mine.
- pbiggar 14y agoYou're going a long way to avoid saying that you can rely on the results. If you felt we could, this discussion would be over a long time ago. I'm stopping this dance here. Feel free to make a claim about the reliability of the results, and whether you can use them to say that one language is faster than another. Then we can dance some more, but otherwise I'm out.
- igouy 14y agoYou can rely on the results, the results are what they claim to be on the home page -- "the time taken for this task, by this program, when compiled with this compiler, with these options, on this machine, with these workloads." > Feel free to make a claim... The only point of "this dance" was to help people understand that you are putting words into my mouth.
- pbiggar 14y agoExactly. You've said it yourself - you cannot rely on the results to tell if a language is faster than another. That was the original context of my claim, and you are admitting it yourself.
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- igouy 14y agoThe benchmarks game is not "The Debian ..." anything -- just one of 960 hosted projects. The pi-digits page also shows a PHP program which does not use the GMP extension. Why do you think no one has contributed a Ruby program that uses GMP? Is that too hard to do using Ruby? The benchmarks game is the absolute truth about the reported measurements.