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“Race”, such as it is, is orthogonal to place of origin. If you’re arguing for abolishing the nation state or any concept the establishes right and obligations

“Race”, such as it is, is orthogonal to place of origin. If you’re arguing for abolishing the nation state or any concept the establishes right and obligations based on you being born there, then it would help your cause to not entangle it with racism. It would also be more interesting if you can explain how you imagine we’d even get to a place where there is only a single earthly jurisdiction with free movement etc. now THAT would be an interesting thought experiment.

the_mitsuhiko 5mo ago
> If you’re arguing for abolishing the nation state or any concept the establishes right and obligations based on you being born there, then it would help your cause to not entangle it with racism. Racism in one form or another is at the very core of the nation state. I disagree with the very notion that rights should be established with a razor that cuts by citizenship. It’s a blunt tool that might work to some degree but clearly the US shows that citizenship is an insufficient measurement to the positive contribution to GDP or entrepreneurship. > It would also be more interesting if you can explain how you imagine we’d even get to a place where there is only a single earthly jurisdiction with free movement etc. now THAT would be an interesting thought experiment. I don’t know the path to there. That does not mean I can’t see that as a goal worth perusing and to see things they take humanity further from that goal as a regression.
throawayonthe 5mo ago
> “Race”, such as it is, is orthogonal to place of origin what? no it isn't, what makes you say that
RetroTechie 5mo ago
> It would also be more interesting if you can explain how you imagine we’d even get to a place where there is only a single earthly jurisdiction with free movement etc. now THAT would be an interesting thought experiment. For some ideas on how to get there, check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-capitalism
- zhoBEENG 5mo ago
  Let’s not obfuscate this. At the end of the day, we get there by people with guns (or some other weapons) forcing a global monopoly on violence. At some point you need to forcefully take the things from the people who own them now and give them to the one-world government.

the_mitsuhiko 5mo ago

> If you’re arguing for abolishing the nation state or any concept the establishes right and obligations based on you being born there, then it would help your cause to not entangle it with racism. Racism in one form or another is at the very core of the nation state. I disagree with the very notion that rights should be established with a razor that cuts by citizenship. It’s a blunt tool that might work to some degree but clearly the US shows that citizenship is an insufficient measurement to the positive contribution to GDP or entrepreneurship. > It would also be more interesting if you can explain how you imagine we’d even get to a place where there is only a single earthly jurisdiction with free movement etc. now THAT would be an interesting thought experiment. I don’t know the path to there. That does not mean I can’t see that as a goal worth perusing and to see things they take humanity further from that goal as a regression.

throawayonthe 5mo ago

> “Race”, such as it is, is orthogonal to place of origin what? no it isn't, what makes you say that

RetroTechie 5mo ago

> It would also be more interesting if you can explain how you imagine we’d even get to a place where there is only a single earthly jurisdiction with free movement etc. now THAT would be an interesting thought experiment. For some ideas on how to get there, check: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-capitalism

zhoBEENG 5mo ago
Let’s not obfuscate this. At the end of the day, we get there by people with guns (or some other weapons) forcing a global monopoly on violence. At some point you need to forcefully take the things from the people who own them now and give them to the one-world government.