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I don’t know man, never heard about Finnish people decimating a population, starving kids, subverting countries, toppling governments... I’ve been in Finland l

I don’t know man, never heard about Finnish people decimating a population, starving kids, subverting countries, toppling governments... I’ve been in Finland last year and they’re so nice.

trimethylpurine 4mo ago
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- aaomidi 4mo ago
  Israel is committing a genocide. This is undisputed at good point. The way I’m reading your comment is justifying that the genocide is necessary for Israel’s survival. If that is where the pendulum is today, there’s no discussion to be had.
  - mhb 4mo ago
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    - aaomidi 4mo ago
      I’m not going to argue with you. I’m going to leave a comment for others to inform themselves that you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
      - mhb 4mo ago
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- Matl 4mo ago
  > Must be nice to live in a country where your neighbors don't blame you for killing Jesus and want to exterminate you. Says a country that's been credibly accused of trying to exterminate its neighbors you mean? The absolute lack of self-reflection that is on display here is something else.
  - trimethylpurine 4mo ago
    Lack of self reflection? I'm American. I'm in my living room judging a nation that kidnapped Jewish kids. I don't need to reflect on anything. I didn't do that, and I'm fully justified in telling you that it's wrong to do that. I didn't fire rockets from schools to hide behind children. That's reserved for Hamas, and Iran. I don't see Israel doing that. Someone definitely needs to self reflect. It's those people. It's not Israelis. Children are sacred. Life is sacred. IRGC apparently doesn't see it that way. Hamas apparently doesn't. And you apparently don't either. That's on you. You don't have a leg to stand on where it comes to morality. That's obvious to everyone in America, just to be clear. You think the left supports Gaza? The moment they see that Hamas is using children as rocket shields they won't. That's all temporary. It's incompatible with American society. It will never work for you. You only have some support right now because you've managed to hide that fact. But we both know you're okay with it. It's for the cause, in your mind. Tell me I'm wrong. Go ahead.
    - ImPostingOnHN 4mo ago
      Honestly, I agree with the previous comment on your need for self-reflection. Everything you're accusing Palestinians of doing, israel has done: Hides behind civilians? Check; Discounts the sanctity of children's lives? Check; Kidnapped kids? Check; Kills them, too. Don't kill civilians. Don't kill children. Especially if they're being used as human shields. It really is that easy. Whatever desires israel may have (exterminating Palestinians, taking their land, a feeling of absolute security) are secondary to that (as in, less important), and can be addressed when their child killing and civilian killing stops.
      - trimethylpurine 4mo ago
- asibahi 4mo ago
  Not to get into an argument, but most of the population in the Middle East are Muslim who don't give two shits who killed Jesus because they don't believe he was killed to begin with.
  - MSFT_Edging 4mo ago
    You can point to the recent invasion of Lebanon and the image of an IDF soldier taking a sledge hammer to a statue of Jesus. Those might be the upset neighbors. Rightfully so as they were told to evacuate their homes so the homes could be leveled for a "buffer zone". If Israel wants to be taken seriously as a nation of "normal people", they need to do something about the extreme nationalism and hate in their ranks, and the racket of protecting settlers who attack Palestinians in their homes.
hirvi74 4mo ago
Maybe not to that level, but the Sámi people have faced their share of hardships.
yurish 4mo ago
You mean in recent history? Because Finns were nazi allies during WWII and participated in Siege of Leningrad starving hundreds of thousands to death. They also organized network of concentration camps during the war.
- ImPostingOnHN 4mo ago
  Yikes, it's a bad look for israel to be doing the same thing again now, after everything the world has been through.

I don’t know man, never heard about Finnish people decimating a population, starving kids, subverting countries, toppling governments... I’ve been in Finland last year and they’re so nice.

trimethylpurine 4mo ago

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aaomidi 4mo ago
Israel is committing a genocide. This is undisputed at good point. The way I’m reading your comment is justifying that the genocide is necessary for Israel’s survival. If that is where the pendulum is today, there’s no discussion to be had.
- mhb 4mo ago
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  - aaomidi 4mo ago
    I’m not going to argue with you. I’m going to leave a comment for others to inform themselves that you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
    - mhb 4mo ago
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    - trimethylpurine 4mo ago
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Matl 4mo ago
> Must be nice to live in a country where your neighbors don't blame you for killing Jesus and want to exterminate you. Says a country that's been credibly accused of trying to exterminate its neighbors you mean? The absolute lack of self-reflection that is on display here is something else.
- trimethylpurine 4mo ago
  Lack of self reflection? I'm American. I'm in my living room judging a nation that kidnapped Jewish kids. I don't need to reflect on anything. I didn't do that, and I'm fully justified in telling you that it's wrong to do that. I didn't fire rockets from schools to hide behind children. That's reserved for Hamas, and Iran. I don't see Israel doing that. Someone definitely needs to self reflect. It's those people. It's not Israelis. Children are sacred. Life is sacred. IRGC apparently doesn't see it that way. Hamas apparently doesn't. And you apparently don't either. That's on you. You don't have a leg to stand on where it comes to morality. That's obvious to everyone in America, just to be clear. You think the left supports Gaza? The moment they see that Hamas is using children as rocket shields they won't. That's all temporary. It's incompatible with American society. It will never work for you. You only have some support right now because you've managed to hide that fact. But we both know you're okay with it. It's for the cause, in your mind. Tell me I'm wrong. Go ahead.
  - ImPostingOnHN 4mo ago
    Honestly, I agree with the previous comment on your need for self-reflection. Everything you're accusing Palestinians of doing, israel has done: Hides behind civilians? Check; Discounts the sanctity of children's lives? Check; Kidnapped kids? Check; Kills them, too. Don't kill civilians. Don't kill children. Especially if they're being used as human shields. It really is that easy. Whatever desires israel may have (exterminating Palestinians, taking their land, a feeling of absolute security) are secondary to that (as in, less important), and can be addressed when their child killing and civilian killing stops.
    - trimethylpurine 4mo ago
asibahi 4mo ago
Not to get into an argument, but most of the population in the Middle East are Muslim who don't give two shits who killed Jesus because they don't believe he was killed to begin with.
- MSFT_Edging 4mo ago
  You can point to the recent invasion of Lebanon and the image of an IDF soldier taking a sledge hammer to a statue of Jesus. Those might be the upset neighbors. Rightfully so as they were told to evacuate their homes so the homes could be leveled for a "buffer zone". If Israel wants to be taken seriously as a nation of "normal people", they need to do something about the extreme nationalism and hate in their ranks, and the racket of protecting settlers who attack Palestinians in their homes.

hirvi74 4mo ago

Maybe not to that level, but the Sámi people have faced their share of hardships.

yurish 4mo ago

You mean in recent history? Because Finns were nazi allies during WWII and participated in Siege of Leningrad starving hundreds of thousands to death. They also organized network of concentration camps during the war.

ImPostingOnHN 4mo ago
Yikes, it's a bad look for israel to be doing the same thing again now, after everything the world has been through.