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Regardless of what good things other Israeli companies might be doing, it's clear that the Israeli government doesn't have a problem with these malware / spywar
by tdeck 4mo ago
Regardless of what good things other Israeli companies might be doing, it's clear that the Israeli government doesn't have a problem with these malware / spyware companies.
- trimethylpurine 4mo agoWhich government are you comparing to?
- Gud 4mo agoAny other small country? You rarely read about Finland spying on other nations, or trying to influence their politics. There is the AIPAC, I challenge you to find anything similar from any other country.
- trimethylpurine 4mo ago[flagged]
- Gud 4mo agoNone of those groups funnel millions of dollars into American congress men and congress women’s pockets. You are being disingenuous.
- trimethylpurine 4mo agoNearly half a billion dollars in annual lobbying is attributable to oil money. It's okay for OPEC's foreign interests in your book, but you're focused on the tiny impact that Israel has. Saudi money good, Israeli money bad? What's up with that?
- Lucasoato 4mo agoI don’t know man, never heard about Finnish people decimating a population, starving kids, subverting countries, toppling governments... I’ve been in Finland last year and they’re so nice.
- trimethylpurine 4mo ago[flagged]
- aaomidi 4mo agoIsrael is committing a genocide. This is undisputed at good point. The way I’m reading your comment is justifying that the genocide is necessary for Israel’s survival. If that is where the pendulum is today, there’s no discussion to be had.
- mhb 4mo ago[flagged]
- aaomidi 4mo agoI’m not going to argue with you. I’m going to leave a comment for others to inform themselves that you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
- mhb 4mo ago[flagged]
- trimethylpurine 4mo ago[flagged]
- Matl 4mo ago> Must be nice to live in a country where your neighbors don't blame you for killing Jesus and want to exterminate you. Says a country that's been credibly accused of trying to exterminate its neighbors you mean? The absolute lack of self-reflection that is on display here is something else.
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- myth_drannon 4mo agoFrom https://www.opensecrets.org/ https://www.opensecrets.org/ Totals since 2016 Country Total Spending China $562,676,323 Japan $504,111,211 Liberia $432,968,270 Saudi Arabia $421,890,448 Marshall Islands $382,012,024 South Korea $363,237,700 Bahamas $293,205,139 United Arab Emirates $269,529,107 Qatar $269,260,794 Israel $215,168,616 So for small countries UAE and Qatar(no surprise here, they just gifted 1 billion airplane to Trump)
- Matl 4mo agoThis excludes US based groups lobbying for Israeli interests, which does not count under official spending by Israel, so it is not an accurate representation of the lobbying effort in the interests of Israel.
- woodruffw 4mo agoThat seems like the categorically correct thing to do, for the same reason that (for example) a domestic Korean-American nonprofit that lobbies for Korean interests doesn’t get counted as foreign money or influence. (Perhaps it should be! But it should be consistent, whatever it is.)
- Matl 4mo ago> Perhaps it should be! But it should be consistent, whatever it is. Agreed. Any lobbying that centers on the interests of a foreign country should IMO count as foreign lobbying, I have no problem in including Korean-Americans, Kenyan-Americans etc. in that too.
- woodruffw 4mo agoWell, so here's the question: what counts as the interests of a foreign country? AIPAC's entire lobbying stance is that its positions are mutually beneficial to both the US and Israel, and this is the stance that every other national/ethnic affinity group in the US uses as well. Put another way: it seems very risky to allow the federal government to determine the propriety of political speech just because it happens to concern two (or more countries) at once.
- RobotToaster 4mo agoIf the I in AIPAC stood for Italian they would call it a Mafia organisation.
- trimethylpurine 4mo agoThey'd be better off. No one would demand that everyone in Italy be handed over for execution.
- redsocksfan45 4mo ago[flagged]
- OhioMan2943 4mo ago[flagged]
- bugsense 4mo agoThey actively export it. See Pegasus
- tptacek 4mo agoThere are dozens of firms around the world, including several in the US, doing exactly the same thing.
- ImPostingOnHN 4mo agoLooks like several in israel, like the one described in the article.