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No. The average Democracy Index of Western Europe is 8.05 (full democracy), while the US scores 7.65 (flawed democracy, trending downwards). Just below Poland,

No. The average Democracy Index of Western Europe is 8.05 (full democracy), while the US scores 7.65 (flawed democracy, trending downwards). Just below Poland, just above Botswana. You might shrug and say "well pobody's nerfect", but the disparity between the American narrative and the reality is actually quite extreme. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

holoduke 4mo ago
That index is a product of the institute itself. Funded by non democratic values. Worthless junk / progoganda piece if you ask me.
- simonask 4mo ago
  It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely better than this lazy dismissal.
- flawn 4mo ago
  Then check V-Dem, you might argue they're flawed as well but then I'd suggest you to provide counterexamples for why the US should be considered a functioning democracy, and is not on the way to a fully authoritarian state.
psychoslave 4mo ago
Is the index measuring how wealth distribution minimize disparity? How policies debates are driven by spontaneous needs from general public, and how solutions are proposed and refined through open to everyone debates, how programs (not some random face) are voted be it as whole or per compatible submodules? How imperative mandate are dully applicated and how any tentative of corruption is punished with several years of being forbidded of taking any mandate?
- simonask 4mo ago
  Their methodology is freely available, you can easily find the answers to those questions.
subscribed 4mo ago
I don't think this index holds much value TBF. Look at the what The Economist is and promotes. I'd have about as much trust in Faux News Independent Press index. I used to work and live in Poland for almost a decade (I visit friends there often), and I live and work on the UK and to be fair Poland seems far more democratic. Actual independence of the Judiciary, proportional representation Parliament, vacatio legis (as opposed to UK's "hey, that's your new tax code, effective immediately"), growing local democracies (despite 50 years of Soviet occupation, thanks to the betrayal from the West).

holoduke 4mo ago

That index is a product of the institute itself. Funded by non democratic values. Worthless junk / progoganda piece if you ask me.

simonask 4mo ago
It’s not perfect, but it’s definitely better than this lazy dismissal.
flawn 4mo ago
Then check V-Dem, you might argue they're flawed as well but then I'd suggest you to provide counterexamples for why the US should be considered a functioning democracy, and is not on the way to a fully authoritarian state.

psychoslave 4mo ago

Is the index measuring how wealth distribution minimize disparity? How policies debates are driven by spontaneous needs from general public, and how solutions are proposed and refined through open to everyone debates, how programs (not some random face) are voted be it as whole or per compatible submodules? How imperative mandate are dully applicated and how any tentative of corruption is punished with several years of being forbidded of taking any mandate?

simonask 4mo ago
Their methodology is freely available, you can easily find the answers to those questions.

subscribed 4mo ago

I don't think this index holds much value TBF. Look at the what The Economist is and promotes. I'd have about as much trust in Faux News Independent Press index. I used to work and live in Poland for almost a decade (I visit friends there often), and I live and work on the UK and to be fair Poland seems far more democratic. Actual independence of the Judiciary, proportional representation Parliament, vacatio legis (as opposed to UK's "hey, that's your new tax code, effective immediately"), growing local democracies (despite 50 years of Soviet occupation, thanks to the betrayal from the West).