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I don't know if I’m overly critical but there’s gotta be a middle ground between totally AI pilled people that otherwise have no talents, and control freak vete

I don't know if I’m overly critical but there’s gotta be a middle ground between totally AI pilled people that otherwise have no talents, and control freak veteran developers who cant let go My current process is also using Github projects in a normal scrum style way, with many tickets written or fleshed out and state managed by the LLM, and it doubling as the memory system Completely leapfrogging all these other open and closed source concoctions and being more effective But its effective enough that I don’t need OP’s final form state of still approving everything Auto-mode is fine. Worktrees are built into Claude Code now. I just tell it to classify tickets as sequential or parallel possible and spawn subagents to tackle all of the tickets in the todo list They all get their own context window its pretty perfect now in the meantime I work in a couple tabs of Claude Design for different flows of any client side app. My philosophy has been that devs could pick up graphic and UI/UX design easily, its just still a full time job to make variations of layouts and portray their states. UI/UX is not a full time job anymore. And I use Claude chat to flesh out aspects of the overall idea I think you may be overcomplicating your workflow in the concluding state. Overall I agree that planning and intention is now most of the time, before a 10 subagent precision strike is initiated

thi2 4mo ago
There are tons of people, those are just not as vocal.
nisabek 4mo ago
Could be (the overcomplicating part), I'm just not yet comfortable loosing the mental model of the final application. At least not in all types of tickets. Are you not seeing that?..
- yieldcrv 4mo ago
  I focus on one side project at a time, alongside work applications Both are giving me skillsets to excel in the other domain I watch the subagents, push back on some choices, look at commits and glance at pull requests
ai_fry_ur_brain 4mo ago
All these people saying UI/UX is dead, then I see their designs and they're absolutely the worst (but they're always swearing by how incredible it is). Sorry access to an LLM (even if it could center a div reliably and make a responsive designs, it can't) does not give you taste, intuition or make you good at building user interfaces. You people/sloppers have no idea the amount of sweat that gets poured into great UX. Its insulting when you people say these things and Im not even a designer or frontend dev. I actually think UI/UX designers and devs will be the last to fall. I will want beautiful products that were built by beautiful minds, thats how you will set yourself apart from the slop. And fortunately it will be even easier when 80% of everything is half assed cranked out UI by llm design tools. The contrast is already glaring.
- cindyllm 4mo ago
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- yieldcrv 4mo ago
  I’ve seen that slop but Claude Design has barely been out for a month And it’s fulfilled my needs better than v0, lovable, playwright via LLM or just iterating in the coding LLM. I’ve worked with graphic designers my whole career and have also contracted design agencies to do style guides and collaborate on branding and layouts. I’ve gotten the output that I’m looking for with Claude Design eventually you’ll see examples but its not in my purview to publicly link any of my projects as being vibe coded
  - ai_fry_ur_brain 4mo ago
    Lmao claude design sucks ass. You have low standards.
  - uuuuunnnuuu 4mo ago
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- andrekandre 4mo ago
  > I actually think UI/UX designers and devs will be the last to fall. I will want beautiful products that were built by beautiful minds as an aside, i do find it interesting how people around me are more reluctant to have an ai design the look of an app vs a human, yet having an ai design the more important parts (how it works) is totally fine to them... > You people/sloppers have no idea the amount of sweat that gets poured into great UX. i could say the same about code though... why is ui/ux some sacred cow but code isn't? its just as important no? > Its insulting when you people say these things and Im not even a designer or frontend dev. playing devils advocate, but again, why is code any different?
bluefirebrand 4mo ago
> control freak veteran developers who cant let go It is not control freak behavior to want to be in control when you are the one accountable for it if it breaks.
rglover 4mo ago
I just do turn based development with Cline. I design my UIs in the browser first then let something like Claude wire it up, correcting it as I go. Way faster than before, easy to correct mistakes, doesn't require self-sacrifice or submission. I shudder when I hear about some people's (wildly overcomplicated) setups. I get the allure but there's something nice about pair programming with an LLM in a singular chat.

thi2 4mo ago

There are tons of people, those are just not as vocal.

nisabek 4mo ago

Could be (the overcomplicating part), I'm just not yet comfortable loosing the mental model of the final application. At least not in all types of tickets. Are you not seeing that?..

yieldcrv 4mo ago
I focus on one side project at a time, alongside work applications Both are giving me skillsets to excel in the other domain I watch the subagents, push back on some choices, look at commits and glance at pull requests

ai_fry_ur_brain 4mo ago

All these people saying UI/UX is dead, then I see their designs and they're absolutely the worst (but they're always swearing by how incredible it is). Sorry access to an LLM (even if it could center a div reliably and make a responsive designs, it can't) does not give you taste, intuition or make you good at building user interfaces. You people/sloppers have no idea the amount of sweat that gets poured into great UX. Its insulting when you people say these things and Im not even a designer or frontend dev. I actually think UI/UX designers and devs will be the last to fall. I will want beautiful products that were built by beautiful minds, thats how you will set yourself apart from the slop. And fortunately it will be even easier when 80% of everything is half assed cranked out UI by llm design tools. The contrast is already glaring.

cindyllm 4mo ago
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yieldcrv 4mo ago
I’ve seen that slop but Claude Design has barely been out for a month And it’s fulfilled my needs better than v0, lovable, playwright via LLM or just iterating in the coding LLM. I’ve worked with graphic designers my whole career and have also contracted design agencies to do style guides and collaborate on branding and layouts. I’ve gotten the output that I’m looking for with Claude Design eventually you’ll see examples but its not in my purview to publicly link any of my projects as being vibe coded
- ai_fry_ur_brain 4mo ago
  Lmao claude design sucks ass. You have low standards.
- uuuuunnnuuu 4mo ago
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andrekandre 4mo ago
> I actually think UI/UX designers and devs will be the last to fall. I will want beautiful products that were built by beautiful minds as an aside, i do find it interesting how people around me are more reluctant to have an ai design the look of an app vs a human, yet having an ai design the more important parts (how it works) is totally fine to them... > You people/sloppers have no idea the amount of sweat that gets poured into great UX. i could say the same about code though... why is ui/ux some sacred cow but code isn't? its just as important no? > Its insulting when you people say these things and Im not even a designer or frontend dev. playing devils advocate, but again, why is code any different?

bluefirebrand 4mo ago

> control freak veteran developers who cant let go It is not control freak behavior to want to be in control when you are the one accountable for it if it breaks.

rglover 4mo ago

I just do turn based development with Cline. I design my UIs in the browser first then let something like Claude wire it up, correcting it as I go. Way faster than before, easy to correct mistakes, doesn't require self-sacrifice or submission. I shudder when I hear about some people's (wildly overcomplicated) setups. I get the allure but there's something nice about pair programming with an LLM in a singular chat.