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You call it scare-mongering. Others, serious thinkers and leaders in the AI and national security space, believe, maybe not scare-mongering enough. AI is a nat

You call it scare-mongering. Others, serious thinkers and leaders in the AI and national security space, believe, maybe not scare-mongering enough. AI is a national security issue. Best accept that as fact, or you won't see it coming.

yogthos 4mo ago
Nobody with even a modicum of understanding of how LLMs work believes any of this. These 'serious thinkers' are just grifters preying on the feeble minded.
- faurroar 4mo ago
  Hinton and Bengio don't understand how LLMs work?
  - yogthos 4mo ago
    They do, but they're not above grifting. Clearly people like you are their mark.
mmh0000 4mo ago
Yeah, LLMs are a national security issue on par with spellcheck.
- mensetmanusman 4mo ago
  LLMs are piloting EM-proof kamakazi drones and destroying logistics networks today.
  - ygjb 4mo ago
    Shh...you'll burst the bubble of the folks who think that LLMs are toy stochastic parrots...
  - mmh0000 4mo ago
    And gps guided missiles were doing that since the 80s. Humans are already really good at killing each other. Yeah it sucks the tech will be used for that. But it changes little.
    - kaibee 4mo ago
      iirc consumer grade GPS chips purposely become less accurate if they find themselves moving at high speed.
      - SJC_Hacker 4mo ago
        Drones do not need to mov at high speed to be effective, as cam feeds from FPVs in the Russo-Ukrainian war have demonstrated
  - zer00eyz 4mo ago
    You're slightly off the mark here. They are NOT "em-proof" --- what they are is electronic warfare immune. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomou... Published this year, but talking about a trial 2 years ago. Blocking any leading edge AI model changes nothing. We (humans) have a long history of determined attackers finding creative and unexpected solutions. What the AI we have, the stuff that is already PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, is good enough to shrink the time for developing one of those creative solutions into a working tool/weapon. Edit: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/12/8038963/ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/12/8038963/ They are using ai for terminal guidance on Russian logistics (red vs green reticle if you choose to watch the video). Considering the progress on YOLO (and running on sub watt processors) it being able to do this work "onboard" should be shocking to no one.
  - nerfbatplz 4mo ago
    The real threat isn't the drones, it's the ability to generate a target bank. Historically militaries that are not just carpet bombing have been bottlenecked by target selection, humans can only review and authorize so many strikes. Now the AI will select the targets and the bottleneck moves to how many bombs you can build. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_G...
    - SubiculumCode 4mo ago
      https://youtu.be/CHLFl26p7Po?is=j-Z1fiCCa-Q_gQS5 https://youtu.be/CHLFl26p7Po?is=j-Z1fiCCa-Q_gQS5
      - mmh0000 4mo ago
        That video makes a lot of claims that sound reasonable, but doesn't provide data to back it up. For example, in the first 30 seconds, he says that at the beginning of the Iran War, AI was used to strike 900 targets in 12 hours. Which he calls "unprecedented" but then never backs up. For context, in the 1991 Gulf War "Operation Desert Storm" the U.S. struck about 1500 targets[1][2][3] in 12 hours. [1] https://www.mitchellaerospacepower.org/app/uploads/2021/02/a2dd91_46120e1c02cd450f902ee154edd6c85e.pdf https://www.mitchellaerospacepower.org/app/uploads/2021/02/a... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRgfBXn6Mg&t=401s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRgfBXn6Mg&t=401s [3] https://gulfwar.org/gulf-war-1991-timeline-desert-storm/ https://gulfwar.org/gulf-war-1991-timeline-desert-storm/ -
zingababba 4mo ago
Right now it's basically this easy: 1. apex domain 2. ???? 3. critical PII exposure There is /so/ much stuff on the internet that just needed someone to spend enough time on it.
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karmasimida 4mo ago
Anthropic and US Government, there can be only one right in this situation. I think David Sacks is right, if you are saying you are building nuclear bombs, then prepared to be regulated like one. There is no eating it while having it
- LPisGood 4mo ago
  I agree completely. If these things are so dangerous that they turn every person into an advanced persistent thread actor, capable of causing untold cyber destruction (oh, and they can make bio weapons etc), then they should be treated like the weapons they are.
- zugi 4mo ago
  > Anthropic and US Government, there can be only one right in this situation. And just to be clear, that's a maximum of one right in this situation.
Freedom2 4mo ago
Can you share any of these serious thinkers?

yogthos 4mo ago

Nobody with even a modicum of understanding of how LLMs work believes any of this. These 'serious thinkers' are just grifters preying on the feeble minded.

faurroar 4mo ago
Hinton and Bengio don't understand how LLMs work?
- yogthos 4mo ago
  They do, but they're not above grifting. Clearly people like you are their mark.

mmh0000 4mo ago

Yeah, LLMs are a national security issue on par with spellcheck.

mensetmanusman 4mo ago
LLMs are piloting EM-proof kamakazi drones and destroying logistics networks today.
- ygjb 4mo ago
  Shh...you'll burst the bubble of the folks who think that LLMs are toy stochastic parrots...
- mmh0000 4mo ago
  And gps guided missiles were doing that since the 80s. Humans are already really good at killing each other. Yeah it sucks the tech will be used for that. But it changes little.
  - kaibee 4mo ago
    iirc consumer grade GPS chips purposely become less accurate if they find themselves moving at high speed.
    - SJC_Hacker 4mo ago
      Drones do not need to mov at high speed to be effective, as cam feeds from FPVs in the Russo-Ukrainian war have demonstrated
- zer00eyz 4mo ago
  You're slightly off the mark here. They are NOT "em-proof" --- what they are is electronic warfare immune. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomous-drones-have-killed-human-soldiers-for-the-first-time/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2529849-fully-autonomou... Published this year, but talking about a trial 2 years ago. Blocking any leading edge AI model changes nothing. We (humans) have a long history of determined attackers finding creative and unexpected solutions. What the AI we have, the stuff that is already PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, is good enough to shrink the time for developing one of those creative solutions into a working tool/weapon. Edit: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/12/8038963/ https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/06/12/8038963/ They are using ai for terminal guidance on Russian logistics (red vs green reticle if you choose to watch the video). Considering the progress on YOLO (and running on sub watt processors) it being able to do this work "onboard" should be shocking to no one.
- nerfbatplz 4mo ago
  The real threat isn't the drones, it's the ability to generate a target bank. Historically militaries that are not just carpet bombing have been bottlenecked by target selection, humans can only review and authorize so many strikes. Now the AI will select the targets and the bottleneck moves to how many bombs you can build. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI-assisted_targeting_in_the_G...
  - SubiculumCode 4mo ago
    https://youtu.be/CHLFl26p7Po?is=j-Z1fiCCa-Q_gQS5 https://youtu.be/CHLFl26p7Po?is=j-Z1fiCCa-Q_gQS5
    - mmh0000 4mo ago
      That video makes a lot of claims that sound reasonable, but doesn't provide data to back it up. For example, in the first 30 seconds, he says that at the beginning of the Iran War, AI was used to strike 900 targets in 12 hours. Which he calls "unprecedented" but then never backs up. For context, in the 1991 Gulf War "Operation Desert Storm" the U.S. struck about 1500 targets[1][2][3] in 12 hours. [1] https://www.mitchellaerospacepower.org/app/uploads/2021/02/a2dd91_46120e1c02cd450f902ee154edd6c85e.pdf https://www.mitchellaerospacepower.org/app/uploads/2021/02/a... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRgfBXn6Mg&t=401s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRgfBXn6Mg&t=401s [3] https://gulfwar.org/gulf-war-1991-timeline-desert-storm/ https://gulfwar.org/gulf-war-1991-timeline-desert-storm/ -

zingababba 4mo ago

Right now it's basically this easy: 1. apex domain 2. ???? 3. critical PII exposure There is /so/ much stuff on the internet that just needed someone to spend enough time on it.

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karmasimida 4mo ago

Anthropic and US Government, there can be only one right in this situation. I think David Sacks is right, if you are saying you are building nuclear bombs, then prepared to be regulated like one. There is no eating it while having it

LPisGood 4mo ago
I agree completely. If these things are so dangerous that they turn every person into an advanced persistent thread actor, capable of causing untold cyber destruction (oh, and they can make bio weapons etc), then they should be treated like the weapons they are.
zugi 4mo ago
> Anthropic and US Government, there can be only one right in this situation. And just to be clear, that's a maximum of one right in this situation.

Freedom2 4mo ago

Can you share any of these serious thinkers?