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Spoofing isn’t ended at all Almost every spam call has that I get, is spoofed. Someone here explained it, once. I think the spoofed calls use a legacy transp

Spoofing isn’t ended at all Almost every spam call has that I get, is spoofed. Someone here explained it, once. I think the spoofed calls use a legacy transport tech that can’t be forced to validate.

hobofan 5mo ago
Can't that legacy transport be blocked / not-be-peered with then? That's what usually happens with old insecure tech that is being phased out.
singpolyma3 5mo ago
How do you verify it is spoofed? Have you asked your carrier to drop unverified calls from your service?
- ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
  > How do you verify it is spoofed? Not my job to "verify," in the technical sense. When a call for an Indian crypto pump comes in as "SMITH, ROBERT", and a local exchange, I call that "spoofed."
  - sgarman 5mo ago
    Mine literally come from the verified coinbase phone number and say coinbase and everything. If I didn't know for sure they are not calling me I'd think it was real 100%.
    - singpolyma3 5mo ago
      Yeah that does sound spoofed. I'd call your carrier and ask them to make sure attestation below B is blocked.
  - singpolyma3 5mo ago
    That's almost certainly not spoofed. They just own a phone number on your local exchange.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
      No they don't. I've called back, a couple of times, and got some guy named Bob, getting all confused. "Whaddaya mean I just called you?". Hmm...you seem very interested in redirecting this train of conversation. Why?
      - singpolyma3 5mo ago
        I'm very interested in knowing the actual current state of affairs WRT spoofing and a lot of people make claims without evidence which makes it hard to find out. I thank you for providing your evidence here because it does sound like some carriers are still not enforcing. Which is obviously a problem.
        ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
        I think it’s a mix. If the CID has someone’s name, then it’s almost certainly spoofed, but sometimes, it just has a town name, and that might be what you mean. There was this telco, in Upstate New York, that was infamous for being a firehose of scam/spam robocalls. I think they may have been shut down, though, because I haven’t seen their numbers in the CID for a couple of years. I would suggest that carriers are limited in what they can do. Crooks be crooks, and many of them are very clever. They usually figure out how to weasel past the guard dogs.

hobofan 5mo ago

Can't that legacy transport be blocked / not-be-peered with then? That's what usually happens with old insecure tech that is being phased out.

singpolyma3 5mo ago

How do you verify it is spoofed? Have you asked your carrier to drop unverified calls from your service?

ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
> How do you verify it is spoofed? Not my job to "verify," in the technical sense. When a call for an Indian crypto pump comes in as "SMITH, ROBERT", and a local exchange, I call that "spoofed."
- sgarman 5mo ago
  Mine literally come from the verified coinbase phone number and say coinbase and everything. If I didn't know for sure they are not calling me I'd think it was real 100%.
  - singpolyma3 5mo ago
    Yeah that does sound spoofed. I'd call your carrier and ask them to make sure attestation below B is blocked.
- singpolyma3 5mo ago
  That's almost certainly not spoofed. They just own a phone number on your local exchange.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
    No they don't. I've called back, a couple of times, and got some guy named Bob, getting all confused. "Whaddaya mean I just called you?". Hmm...you seem very interested in redirecting this train of conversation. Why?
    - singpolyma3 5mo ago
      I'm very interested in knowing the actual current state of affairs WRT spoofing and a lot of people make claims without evidence which makes it hard to find out. I thank you for providing your evidence here because it does sound like some carriers are still not enforcing. Which is obviously a problem.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
        I think it’s a mix. If the CID has someone’s name, then it’s almost certainly spoofed, but sometimes, it just has a town name, and that might be what you mean. There was this telco, in Upstate New York, that was infamous for being a firehose of scam/spam robocalls. I think they may have been shut down, though, because I haven’t seen their numbers in the CID for a couple of years. I would suggest that carriers are limited in what they can do. Crooks be crooks, and many of them are very clever. They usually figure out how to weasel past the guard dogs.