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Keygen.music
- sublinear 4mo agoNot that I've looked into it much, but a thought just occurred to me. Why don't we use AI to generate lofi samples for tracker music? Why aren't there trackers with that feature bolted on? I should be able to search for bespoke and unique sounds out of thin air. Surely that should be a very modest goal to achieve? (re: downvotes... I say "AI" as a synthesis method, not as a way to interfere with the creative process, but I guess I have to resign myself to the fact many downvoters might be ignorant of how these musical sausages are usually made)
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- devin 4mo agoCould you say more? I don't really follow, and I've used trackers for a long time. Don't some trackers already have something akin to this in terms of "randomizing" wave forms inside some reasonable parameters? Why would you need AI for this problem?
- zahlman 4mo agoI assume the goal is to be able to prompt with "make me a synth that sounds like ..." and actually get a reasonable result.
- 4chandaily 4mo agoYou can't mention "AI" and music together without a negative response. I think entrenched business interests as well as musicians and other music industry adjacent people, plus the well intentioned but poorly informed public have developed a visceral knee jerk reaction to the concept. Some of this is understandable, but I think it is mostly fueled by astroturfing. I am a musician as well as a technology enthusiast, and I think this a very exciting time! To respond more directly to your point than your aside, there are a smattering of models out there that can take descriptions of sounds and do a decent job of creating them. (Stable Audio 3 just released last month and can do this, for example). - I don't find them to be useful for sampling, though. I'm still much quicker dialing in a sound with knobs or sliders than a text box. Diffusion models in music making are not going away, though. This is (at least in part) the future. For a taste, look at some of the interesting things being done over in the Demon project - https://github.com/daydreamlive/DEMON https://github.com/daydreamlive/DEMON - to me, this is a much more positive use of the tech than "type words/get song".
- tiborsaas 4mo agoI really like to prompt music models with random gibberish with some unhinged prompts and expect some other world-y results.
- stackghost 4mo ago>Why don't we use AI to generate lofi samples for tracker music? Because generating lofi samples is already pretty easy with waveform generators and existing tools. Burning millions of tokens worth of compute just to make a bass kick is profoundly wasteful.
- SyneRyder 4mo agoAn upvote from me, it's a reasonable question. For your "search for bespoke and unique sounds", that sounds like a service Waves runs, called Illugen. It isn't built in to a tracker, but you can use it to generate the samples that you import into the tracker. Honestly I've never used it, I have too many samples anyway, but here it is: https://www.waves.com/illugen https://www.waves.com/illugen But you also don't have to go down the generative / diffusion path. You can ask your AI to make a tool to generate various sample files for you mathematically. A good frontier model will happily make a program that will create some hihat and cymbal sounds out of white noise, a kick drum out of distorted sine waves. It will create some simple synth sounds from square waves. If you go deep enough, it will happily go down the rabbit hole with you into additive synthesis while nerding out about the Synclavier. Or it will do synthesis through frequency modulation while chatting about the Yamaha DX7 and don't do that because FM is like modular you'll never find a way out of that hole has anyone seen eno lately. If you kept reading this far, there's plenty of Claudes already doing their own very simple synthesis & music writing, in videos like these below (two I found today). The models are capable of much much more if you give them time to build a toolset, and aren't just asking them to one shot an entire video about their existence using only a copy of ffmpeg: https://x.com/nptacek/status/2065207326492020957/video/1 https://x.com/nptacek/status/2065207326492020957/video/1 https://x.com/nptacek/status/2065230524264710313/video/1 https://x.com/nptacek/status/2065230524264710313/video/1
- petercooper 4mo agoNot quite what you suggested, but I did some experiments several months ago "enhancing" the samples in tracker music with some models, and they sounded terrible. There really is something about the sound of tracker files that's just right. But sure, you could generate lo-fi samples, there's a lot of computer generated samples in music, but putting them together into a pleasing combination is the hard bit.
- devin 4mo agoI think maybe this is getting hugged to death. I searched for an old favorite of mine: `radix - bright eyes`, and couldn't find it, but maybe I'm just doing it wrong.
- soupspaces 4mo agoTry https://keygenmusic.tk https://keygenmusic.tk earlier posted on HN
- bityard 4mo agoFrom the aesthetic, this has probably been vibecoded to hell and back. (And it looks like the files were all yoinked from https://github.com/6512345/keygenmusic https://github.com/6512345/keygenmusic) Archive.org also has some bundles of keygen music, but you have to sift a bit through the results to find them.
- Rockjodd 4mo agoBah, the user interface and design is horrible to navigate in, which just made me sad. Try to paginate, music stops etc. If you created this, spend some more effort in user testing before sharing if you want users to have a good experience. My 2 cents.
- prodigycorp 4mo agoShipping a ui like this is downright disrespectful for users here. it makes zero sense.
- dfxm12 4mo agoThe Dunning-Kruger effect will grow with AI adoption.
- somenameforme 4mo agoThere's nothing like that here. Just actually try to use it and you're like 'oh, this doesn't really work.. at all.' It's more like LLMs enabling extremely lazy people to put out something that ostensibly requires a lot of work, but was probably about 10 minutes of prompting and can't be bothered to do 5 minutes of testing. It's curious to think about the impact this is going to have on large software companies that increasingly seem happy to ship slop. LLMs are going to accelerate slop production by orders of magnitude, but that also is going to proportionally accelerate the destruction of one's own brand.
- f_devd 4mo agoNgl the weird UI bugs made me think it must be made by AI, either that or the developer has very skewed frontend skills where gradients are fancy but sliders & interactions are broken.
- somenameforme 4mo agoYeah, this is LLM like 99%. Still neat, but ffs just go through a few more testing cycles with it before going live.
- ralusek 4mo agoORiON Nero 6.6 was my shit. Please give it a spin. There were definitely many keygens I would open just to have on in the background.
- Waterluvian 4mo agoFine, I'll listen to Bear Necessities on loop until the football starts. Ah there it is: https://keygenmusic.tk/#track=Razor1911/Razor1911%20-%20Command%20and%20Conguer%203%20Tiberium%20Wars%20kg.xm https://keygenmusic.tk/#track=Razor1911/Razor1911%20-%20Comm...
- RIMR 4mo agoIt's so cool to see that some of these groups are still making incredible pieces of digital art as recently as this year! This Razor1911 career retrospective demo from Revision was pretty impressive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AnbYNudAyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AnbYNudAyM
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- vibcdingenjoyer 4mo agoI wonder if you can find a way to turn the device volume up to max to simulate the unexpected music blasting out and surprising the hell out of the user.
- Brendinooo 4mo agoBased on the site and the comments, this feels like a reference to something I know nothing about!
- p2detar 4mo agoHave you heard of the https://modarchive.org https://modarchive.org?
- Brendinooo 4mo agoI have not!
- teddyh 4mo agoSee also SOAMC=: <https://www.paula8364.com/ https://www.paula8364.com/>
- Brendinooo 4mo agoSo wait all of this this just chiptunes? or am I glossing over a bunch of nuance by saying that
- soupspaces 4mo agoHad not seen it either! Neat.
- echelon_musk 4mo agoThis is a nice collection from the ReclusiveLemming YouTube channel [0] . The video description contains download links to the original tracker modules and an MP3 mix. I used to listen to these modules with Xmp Mod Player [1] from F-Droid on my commute to work with my Nexus 4. Many of the modules contain "hidden" messages that the Android app made easy to read. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=GH7eUlri4yM https://youtube.com/watch?v=GH7eUlri4yM [1] https://f-droid.org/packages/org.helllabs.android.xmp/ https://f-droid.org/packages/org.helllabs.android.xmp/
- aidenn0 4mo agoOne of the mod files I have contains the postal address for the composer for those who would like to request tracks for their own demos.
- echelon_musk 4mo agoSimpler times.
- spaldingcactus 4mo agoYour keygens had music? Mine only ever had viruses.
- petterroea 4mo agoVibecoded website with poor UX. Loving that the website is both trying to be fancy by having a floating player you can drag around with a playlist, while also wiping everything if you click the wrong link. No human made this, or paid it any attention at least.
- mock-possum 4mo ago> No human made this, or paid it any attention at least. I think we’ve got to get used to seeing those as the same thing. Paying attention to it is making it, in essence, the more attention you pay, the more you own the process, the more the result is ‘yours.’
- nialv7 4mo ago> a floating player you can drag you can drag only by clicking on a ui element that has no indication that it can be dragged.
- soupspaces 4mo agoMy favorite is the non-existent link to the GitHub despite the GitHub icon.
- modus-tollens 4mo agoLove the idea! Spend some time refining and thinking about the UI. Can you add this song? "Sony Vegas 9.x Keygen Music by Kenet & Rez (Digital Insanity)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmdprbBOMT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmdprbBOMT8
- Geekshere 4mo agoHorribly coded site but a cool collection of music, only wish I had access to the original collection because I know without a doubt that they just downloaded those mp3s from someone else’s site.
- laurentlb 4mo agoNote that there are no mp3 files at all. It's a player for module files (e.g. .mod, .xm, etc.) If you'd like to download module files, https://modarchive.org https://modarchive.org is a good reference.
- kevin061 4mo agoVibecoded slop with terrible performance. Use https://chiptune.app https://chiptune.app. >Preserving the digital underground's musical legacy Yeah I'm pretty sure the people who made keygens and chiptunes would hate today's AI and LLM. This is a tribute to chiptunes and keygen music as much as putting a picture of your grandma into an AI tool to animate it would be a tribute to her.
- petercooper 4mo agoI was coming here to recommend https://chiptune.app/ https://chiptune.app/ too - it's great, and super fast to boot.
- hackernudes 4mo agoSeems to be Missing my favorite - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STiQ8cCIo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9STiQ8cCIo0 ("Unreal Super Hero 3" by Kenet & Rez)
- cdnutter 4mo agoI tend to think this song is the magnum opus of keygen music. Always used to be associated with Sony Vegas tools which, when I was younger, was a big deal cracking.
- laurentlb 4mo agoYou'll find it here: https://chiptune.app/?play=FwwaT5Rc https://chiptune.app/?play=FwwaT5Rc As mentioned in other comments, chiptune.app seems to be a better project and has been maintained for years (https://github.com/mmontag/chip-player-js https://github.com/mmontag/chip-player-js). Also available here: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=67516 https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&qu...
- leothetechguy 4mo agothe demoscene is about putting in lots of technical effort into programs even if it would be completely unreasonable in any real software project. This vibe coded mess is putting in so little technical effort even though it is completely unreasonable for any piece of software associated with the demoscene.
- wetbaby 4mo agoThis is the shittest website I have ever seen in my life.
- meindnoch 4mo agoJester - Stardust Memories
- ChrisArchitect 4mo ago<starts browsing the groups section...> "Founded: 2002.... Founded: 2007..." huh? Preserving groups that 'shaped the scene' would make me think late 80s and early 90s! c'mon now https://www.scene.org/ https://www.scene.org/ is the way to go, no? ..Suppose that's not going to include hacking groups, but still.
- wren6991 4mo agoA steaming pile of webslop. Thanks Claude. Music is cool though
- system2 4mo agoLLM is plaguing the internet as usual. This site is proof of what a non-technical, inexperienced person comes up with with vibe coding. With Claude Code in less than 5 minutes, I can come up with something 10x better, at least usable, with basic UX knowledge and flow basics. Sorry if I offended the author, but he/she can learn from these comments.
- smusamashah 4mo agoThis website is horrific on phone. A sane human made website with keygen music has been shared on HN a few times already.
- slicktux 4mo agoUnable to browse because I’m on mobile but Satellite One by Purple Motion is a track to listen to! <3
- zuzululu 4mo agodont really get the complaints about UI its irrelevant to enjoying the actual content which is music sometimes the nitpickery on HN is excessive and not really of value
- soupspaces 4mo agohttps://xkcd.com/386/ https://xkcd.com/386/ Classic. Edit: They have a point though. Food for thought.
- zuzululu 4mo agocan't open that link shows 404
- rafram 4mo agoThis is a vibe-coded clone of https://keygenmusic.tk/ https://keygenmusic.tk/, it seems.
- cesarvarela 4mo agoThanks, the UX in the OP is atrocious.
- m463 4mo agoI wonder if you could feed in all the HN comments as feedback and get a PR
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- igmn 4mo ago> Preserving the digital underground's musical legacy The entire page has clearly been completely AI-generated in one shot and serves no value. I doubt the author even read much of the code before hitting publish - look at the comments in the HTML: > <!-- EXACT setup from working simple-test.html --> lol. It struggles to even run on my laptop with the amount of crap Gemini has put into it - 30KB of minified JS and another 30 of the horrible CSS. This is a snot-filled spit in the face of musicians whose TLD is being polluted with this, and whose music this vibecoder stole. The gall to have a copyright sign at the bottom is despicable.
- Jtarii 4mo agoThis is an acutely awful website to look at.