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I was an ion3 guy back in the day. Installing and configuring those window managers (which I loved!) is why I left linux... I don't want to spend my time futzin

I was an ion3 guy back in the day. Installing and configuring those window managers (which I loved!) is why I left linux... I don't want to spend my time futzing around with the computer instead of getting work done.

brian_cloutier 14y ago
That makes a lot more sense, as much as I love tiling window managers it's not especially fun to get that far off the beaten path, for exactly the reasons you've mentioned.
- rsync 14y ago
  ion3 is the high water mark for simplicity and actually getting things done. We are all poorer for Tuomo Valkonen no longer producing this.
  - moe 14y ago
    Yes, ion3 was by far the best tiling wm in its time, and probably still is (I haven't seen another wm implement the tabbed frames metaphor yet). I wish someone would port it to OSX (not X11). I'd pay serious money for a license and I imagine quite a few others would, too.
    - brian_cloutier 14y ago
      Unfortunately that's not the sort of thing osx is amenable to.
      - moe 14y ago
        I think it might be doable, although it would take quite some skill and nasty hacks. The various half-assed "click-to-arrange" utilities (SizeUp et al) demonstrate that windows can be placed, sized, hidden and shown programmatically. Other utilities demonstrate that mouse-position, clicks etc. can be detected and intercepted, and that you can render raster-overlays on top of the desktop. Window drop shadows can be disabled, the window chrome probably can't - but I wouldn't mind that. An ion for OSX would probably have to draw its GUI (grid and tabs) as an overlay and then arrange the windows underneath. It would probably also have to intercept all mouse-actions and decide whether to pass them on. The devil will obviously be in the details, and there will be lots of them. But in principle it doesn't seem impossible to go from something like http://www.tylerwm.com http://www.tylerwm.com to something that actually works...
anonymous 14y ago
I am using ion3 right now. It's pretty cool. Feels a bit limited though, I'm thinking of maybe transitioning to something more ... awesome ;] .

brian_cloutier 14y ago

That makes a lot more sense, as much as I love tiling window managers it's not especially fun to get that far off the beaten path, for exactly the reasons you've mentioned.

rsync 14y ago
ion3 is the high water mark for simplicity and actually getting things done. We are all poorer for Tuomo Valkonen no longer producing this.
- moe 14y ago
  Yes, ion3 was by far the best tiling wm in its time, and probably still is (I haven't seen another wm implement the tabbed frames metaphor yet). I wish someone would port it to OSX (not X11). I'd pay serious money for a license and I imagine quite a few others would, too.
  - brian_cloutier 14y ago
    Unfortunately that's not the sort of thing osx is amenable to.
    - moe 14y ago
      I think it might be doable, although it would take quite some skill and nasty hacks. The various half-assed "click-to-arrange" utilities (SizeUp et al) demonstrate that windows can be placed, sized, hidden and shown programmatically. Other utilities demonstrate that mouse-position, clicks etc. can be detected and intercepted, and that you can render raster-overlays on top of the desktop. Window drop shadows can be disabled, the window chrome probably can't - but I wouldn't mind that. An ion for OSX would probably have to draw its GUI (grid and tabs) as an overlay and then arrange the windows underneath. It would probably also have to intercept all mouse-actions and decide whether to pass them on. The devil will obviously be in the details, and there will be lots of them. But in principle it doesn't seem impossible to go from something like http://www.tylerwm.com http://www.tylerwm.com to something that actually works...

anonymous 14y ago

I am using ion3 right now. It's pretty cool. Feels a bit limited though, I'm thinking of maybe transitioning to something more ... awesome ;] .