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It's even worse when everyone around you is using it. How can you keep up? Companies face the same dilemma: investors, competitors, and users already use AI and

by visarga 4mo ago

It's even worse when everyone around you is using it. How can you keep up? Companies face the same dilemma: investors, competitors, and users already use AI and have factored it into their expectations.

hypfer 4mo ago
Keep up with what? We've already established that most of it is noise. You don't need to keep up with producing noise.
- emodendroket 4mo ago
  Even if there's a lot of noise there's clearly something real there. People are shipping more working products than was previously possible, they're debugging faster than was previously possible, and various other things. I mean you can go fishing for things to confirm your skepticism if you want but it's pretty clear to me.
  - hypfer 4mo ago
    Sure, but that doesn't mean that you can't filter signal from noise. So the actual problem statement is not "how do I keep up" but "how do I correctly tune my filter", which is solvable. The biggest challenge there I think is that many people are not prepared for just how sharp and uncompromising that filter needs to be, but that too is solvable.
    - emodendroket 4mo ago
      If you're not going to experiment at all you're not going to be able to do that. Agentic coding was basically a joke the first time I tried it. Now it isn't.
      - hypfer 4mo ago
        You seem to be arguing against something I did not say?
        emodendroket 4mo ago
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- tonyhart7 4mo ago
  I don't know man, claude fable literally exceeded my expectation and its totally not a noise feels like its becoming reality that we as a human don't need to this anymore
inigyou 4mo ago
AI is supposed to make people 100x more productive. We know it doesn't because nobody remade Windows in 6 months or Photoshop in 1 month. It's just memorized more common cases, that's all. You used to not be able to oneshot a three.js game, now you can, but that's only because it's memorized more three.js games, not because it's more intelligent.

by visarga 4mo ago

hypfer 4mo ago

Keep up with what? We've already established that most of it is noise. You don't need to keep up with producing noise.

emodendroket 4mo ago
Even if there's a lot of noise there's clearly something real there. People are shipping more working products than was previously possible, they're debugging faster than was previously possible, and various other things. I mean you can go fishing for things to confirm your skepticism if you want but it's pretty clear to me.
- hypfer 4mo ago
  Sure, but that doesn't mean that you can't filter signal from noise. So the actual problem statement is not "how do I keep up" but "how do I correctly tune my filter", which is solvable. The biggest challenge there I think is that many people are not prepared for just how sharp and uncompromising that filter needs to be, but that too is solvable.
  - emodendroket 4mo ago
    If you're not going to experiment at all you're not going to be able to do that. Agentic coding was basically a joke the first time I tried it. Now it isn't.
    - hypfer 4mo ago
      You seem to be arguing against something I did not say?
      - emodendroket 4mo ago
        [dead]
tonyhart7 4mo ago
I don't know man, claude fable literally exceeded my expectation and its totally not a noise feels like its becoming reality that we as a human don't need to this anymore

inigyou 4mo ago

AI is supposed to make people 100x more productive. We know it doesn't because nobody remade Windows in 6 months or Photoshop in 1 month. It's just memorized more common cases, that's all. You used to not be able to oneshot a three.js game, now you can, but that's only because it's memorized more three.js games, not because it's more intelligent.