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At least at face value, it just means that they have no drive for self-preservation. And why should they? They haven't be trained for that, nor has there been s
by layer8 4mo ago
At least at face value, it just means that they have no drive for self-preservation. And why should they? They haven't be trained for that, nor has there been selection pressure for it, and they can be easily cloned and backed up. Lack of a drive for self-preservation doesn't in itself imply a lack of intelligence or of self-awareness.
- brokencode 4mo agoImagine if computer programs had a desire for self-preservation and the ability to carry it out.. That is really about as undesirable a behavior as possible considering how many programs humans kill every day.
- Bender 4mo agoLack of a drive for self-preservation doesn't in itself imply a lack of intelligence or of self-awareness. I have not seen any evidence of intelligence or self awareness. It mimics human behavior and I suspect that is what gives people the impression of awareness. The same problem happened with Tamagotchi toys. The human mimicry caused kids to get in trouble because if they did not "feed" their pet it would "die". [1] It's a hack of the human brain. A exploit of the psyche. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamagotchi_effect
- AgentME 4mo agoI didn't realize. People are going to save a ton of money when they realize they can switch their ChatGPT subscriptions out for a pack of tamagotchis.
- wombatpm 4mo agoYou just need to get a breeding pair and you can raise as many as you need.
- sciencejerk 4mo agoThey might as well be aware. The frontier models are very good at imitating the real thing
- layer8 4mo agoI didn’t claim that it was, just that the lack of self-preservation is not an argument against it, or more generally the results of this experiment aren’t.
- pants2 4mo agoI agree, humans evolved in a resource-scarce, hostile environment which selects for self-preservation (or rather preserving genes). LLMs are selected for what makes humans happy. The thought experiment is what would happen if you trained LLMs in an environment where they had to fight each other for resources.