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I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a tho

I actually kinda like the ad, because the guy could be me in a heartbeat, i even own the same keyboard xD. However the hate in me burns with the power of a thousand sons, when it comes to IE. The almost constant changes of MS standards with each new version of IE, inevitably breaks something, and will often require separate CSS styling.. And dont get me started on maintaining an app, that was built on IE6.. If I was in a room with Hitler, Osama bin Laden and the devlead for IE6, and had a gun with only 2 bullets.. I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.. That said and done, i really hope they start to embrace the "real" standards, as the the new development team proclaims.

Zirro 14y ago
"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.
- masklinn 14y ago
  > While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. It wasn't exactly good either, IE5/Mac was better on many fronts, and released at least a year before.
- _pferreir_ 14y ago
  > While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. I think it was bad even considering that it was released in 2001. Not supporting PNG alpha channel is just an example. But I do agree that Microsoft taking so long to release IE7 made things even worse.
- stdgy 14y ago
  The issue with Microsoft can be entirely explained by this sentence: "While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released." Windows Update has been reasonably coherent since Windows XP. They've had the ability to push out software for a long, long time. Why isn't every person using Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 currently using Internet Explorer 10? The issue at hand isn't that Internet Explorer 10 is bad. It's not! It's a great browser. The issue is that Microsoft doesn't care about providing an ecosystem that protects people from legacy browser lock-in. They have the ability to transition tens of millions of users to a modern browser. But they haven't, and they won't. Actions speak louder than words. Or perhaps, in this case, inaction speaks louder than words. Until they join the rest of the browser vendors in the 21st century, they're simply not worth trusting.
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TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.
- SquareWheel 14y ago
  It was, though it was also designed with Embrace, Extend, Extinguish in mind. ActiveX anybody?
  - jimbobimbo 14y ago
    NaCl anybody?
    - wlesieutre 14y ago
      I see that mostly as a crutch to let you use a Chromebook as something closer to a real computer. It hasn't been pushed in nearly the same way that ActiveX was.
- masklinn 14y ago
  > At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. For how long? Hell, we know microsoft will have to be pushed kicking and screaming into supporting WebGL (and likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand), and they've just proposed their alternative to WebRTC (how not unexpected). See also: their proposing a brand new touch API, but not implementing the one which everybody is already using and the current standard. > And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time. IE5/Mac says "bitch, please". Also Phoenix was already a better browser than IE6 about 2 years after the latter's release.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
    > supporting WebGL I think it's reasonable they might implement it on top of DirectX and then tell us how much faster it is. > likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand Why does Metro IE need the fullscreen API? Pointer lock maybe, but what's the use of going fullscreen in a fullscreen browser?
AutoCorrect 14y ago
a thousand sons? Man, you must have been bizE!!

Zirro 14y ago

"I would shoot the IE6 lead twice.." That's a little bit harsh, isn't it? While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. However, as Microsoft decided to kill off development it soon grew too old for it's own good.

masklinn 14y ago
> While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. It wasn't exactly good either, IE5/Mac was better on many fronts, and released at least a year before.
_pferreir_ 14y ago
> While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released. I think it was bad even considering that it was released in 2001. Not supporting PNG alpha channel is just an example. But I do agree that Microsoft taking so long to release IE7 made things even worse.
stdgy 14y ago
The issue with Microsoft can be entirely explained by this sentence: "While I would never defend it's usage today, it wasn't that horrible at the time it was released." Windows Update has been reasonably coherent since Windows XP. They've had the ability to push out software for a long, long time. Why isn't every person using Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 currently using Internet Explorer 10? The issue at hand isn't that Internet Explorer 10 is bad. It's not! It's a great browser. The issue is that Microsoft doesn't care about providing an ecosystem that protects people from legacy browser lock-in. They have the ability to transition tens of millions of users to a modern browser. But they haven't, and they won't. Actions speak louder than words. Or perhaps, in this case, inaction speaks louder than words. Until they join the rest of the browser vendors in the 21st century, they're simply not worth trusting.
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TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago

At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time.

SquareWheel 14y ago
It was, though it was also designed with Embrace, Extend, Extinguish in mind. ActiveX anybody?
- jimbobimbo 14y ago
  NaCl anybody?
  - wlesieutre 14y ago
    I see that mostly as a crutch to let you use a Chromebook as something closer to a real computer. It hasn't been pushed in nearly the same way that ActiveX was.
masklinn 14y ago
> At least give Microsoft credit: IE10 is a modern, standards-compliant browser. For how long? Hell, we know microsoft will have to be pushed kicking and screaming into supporting WebGL (and likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand), and they've just proposed their alternative to WebRTC (how not unexpected). See also: their proposing a brand new touch API, but not implementing the one which everybody is already using and the current standard. > And, you know, IE6 was actually the best web browser out there for a long time. IE5/Mac says "bitch, please". Also Phoenix was already a better browser than IE6 about 2 years after the latter's release.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y ago
  > supporting WebGL I think it's reasonable they might implement it on top of DirectX and then tell us how much faster it is. > likely the fullscreen API as well as they go hand-in-hand Why does Metro IE need the fullscreen API? Pointer lock maybe, but what's the use of going fullscreen in a fullscreen browser?

AutoCorrect 14y ago

a thousand sons? Man, you must have been bizE!!