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Or move back to your home country once you've gained a beneficial citizenship and can have foreign government benefits paid out every month while you don't even
by carlosjobim 5mo ago
Or move back to your home country once you've gained a beneficial citizenship and can have foreign government benefits paid out every month while you don't even live in that country anymore.
- jimkleiber 5mo agoPerhaps. I think it's more about the passport ranking so one can travel and also the salary bump. But even if more of the other government services, try living in a country where if you get into a serious car accident you have to pay cash at the ER before they treat you. Scrambling to find multiple thousands of dollars in cash at 3am sometimes. (This happened to my friend in Kenya) Im not sure if I can blame people for wanting to have more financial or medical security.
- carlosjobim 5mo agoI think a very low percentage of migrants do it so that they can get a better passport for traveling. Sure, there are people who do that also.
- jimkleiber 5mo agoFair point. I also think the same group you're talking about is probably not thinking about going back home with just government benefits to sustain them. They probably are more focused on working in countries with higher wages and building big homes back home. I think it tends to be more wage driven than government benefit driven, but I could be wrong.
- slow_typist 5mo agoIs it legal to let people suffer or even die at the ER on Kenya if they don’t happen to carry a few k$?
- jimkleiber 5mo agoFair point, just looked it up and it seems to be illegal to do that. But in my experience, many probably still do it, or people don't trust that hospitals will follow the law...it may be more of that latter part, not knowing whether they will or won't ask you for money, or whether they will or won't take your insurance. So I think that uncertainty can mean having to be prepared for it anyway.
- slow_typist 5mo agoProbably a mix of all parts, also in Africa there are hospitals you would certainly try to avoid if you can.
- inigyou 5mo agoWhat country pays out benefits to non-residents?
- bluealienpie 5mo agoAnd if you pay taxes and social security for 20+ years why wouldn’t you be entitled to it? Especially considering you wouldn’t be using expensive programs like Medicare.
- carlosjobim 5mo agoYou don't have to pay taxes nor social security for 20+ years in order to become a citizen in very many countries. You can live on benefits before becoming a citizen and after becoming a citizen. Usually the requirement is that you are a resident for a set number of years in order to become a citizen.
- aranelsurion 5mo ago> You can live on benefits before becoming a citizen and after becoming a citizen What benefits? I don't know every country in the world, in Germany unless you count retirement as a benefit (which is something you pay for and have to reach a certain age that is ever moving upwards) you don't get any assistance if you're not living in the country.
- carlosjobim 5mo agoWhen was the last time you were called to personally appear and report to the German government, so that they could verify that you are in the country, and not somewhere else? Benefits aren't collected in cash, they are sent to bank accounts. The beneficiary can be anywhere.
- inigyou 5mo agoGermany has address registration, you have to unregister if you leave the country for more than 3 months and having it inaccurate is a crime.