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IE hate is well deserved. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of productive hours have been lost due to incompabilities, bugs, etc? That being said, Mic

IE hate is well deserved. How many hundreds of thousands or millions of productive hours have been lost due to incompabilities, bugs, etc? That being said, Microsoft is full of talented people and they do create some fantastic products. IE is slowly getting to a more respectable point and hating on it so harshly seems juvenile.

jeremiep 14y ago
I agree, Microsoft is chock full of talented engineers. Now if only they would let them make the decisions instead of those clueless PR and marketing people. Let the products speak for themselves instead of trying to dumb down everyone into using them through a fishy marketing campaign; they already have the talent to achieve this, but right now I get the feeling it's helplessly sitting there watching events unfold.
fruchtose 14y ago
Microsoft is attacking a straw man. The people Microsoft needs to worry about are not trolls with too much time on their hands. The people they need to convince are web developers frustrated by 10 years of IE that refused to cooperate with standards and held everyone back. Even IE 9 has problems with JS features that Firefox, Chrome, and Opera implement. Microsoft did this to themselves, and I believe it is one of the reasons why developers are reticent to develop for Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8.
JagMicker 14y ago
For those who may have forgotten why IE deserves all the hate thrown its way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Internet_Explorer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Internet_Explorer http://www.favbrowser.com/the-history-of-internet-explorer/ http://www.favbrowser.com/the-history-of-internet-explorer/
WiseWeasel 14y ago
The problem is all the users Microsoft will leave stranded on IE10 after web standards have progressed beyond that point, just as they've done with every previous version of IE. Microsoft is simply too slow to release new versions of IE, and too restrictive of the versions of Windows supported with each release. Nothing has changed with IE10, and developers will be working around its idiosyncrasies for many years to come, long after IE11 and 12 are shipped.

jeremiep 14y ago

I agree, Microsoft is chock full of talented engineers. Now if only they would let them make the decisions instead of those clueless PR and marketing people. Let the products speak for themselves instead of trying to dumb down everyone into using them through a fishy marketing campaign; they already have the talent to achieve this, but right now I get the feeling it's helplessly sitting there watching events unfold.

fruchtose 14y ago

Microsoft is attacking a straw man. The people Microsoft needs to worry about are not trolls with too much time on their hands. The people they need to convince are web developers frustrated by 10 years of IE that refused to cooperate with standards and held everyone back. Even IE 9 has problems with JS features that Firefox, Chrome, and Opera implement. Microsoft did this to themselves, and I believe it is one of the reasons why developers are reticent to develop for Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8.

JagMicker 14y ago

For those who may have forgotten why IE deserves all the hate thrown its way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Internet_Explorer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Internet_Explorer http://www.favbrowser.com/the-history-of-internet-explorer/ http://www.favbrowser.com/the-history-of-internet-explorer/

WiseWeasel 14y ago

The problem is all the users Microsoft will leave stranded on IE10 after web standards have progressed beyond that point, just as they've done with every previous version of IE. Microsoft is simply too slow to release new versions of IE, and too restrictive of the versions of Windows supported with each release. Nothing has changed with IE10, and developers will be working around its idiosyncrasies for many years to come, long after IE11 and 12 are shipped.