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Awesome! Thank you for the update. I noticed that homebrew updated _all_ my casks when running 'brew upgrade' (even those with "auto_updates: true" in their Ca

Awesome! Thank you for the update. I noticed that homebrew updated _all_ my casks when running 'brew upgrade' (even those with "auto_updates: true" in their Cask JSON API). Is this intended, new default behavior? This did not use to happen...

perryprog 4mo ago
You need to set HOMEBREW_NO_UPGRADE_AUTO_UPDATES_CASKS to 1, as alluded to by a hint when it (first?) occurs. This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. See also: https://docs.brew.sh/FAQ#why-arent-some-apps-included-during-brew-upgrade https://docs.brew.sh/FAQ#why-arent-some-apps-included-during...
- reaperducer 4mo ago
  This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. When you instruct the system not to tell you things, the system not telling you those things is a bummer? If I could get more of the tech I interact with to stop doing things I didn't ask it to, it would reduce a lot of stress and wasted time.
  - perryprog 4mo ago
    Ah, I suppose I did word that poorly—I more mean that a significant breaking change (Casks that previously were documented as being excluded from auto-updating suddenly being auto-updated) which can occur silently is a rough end-user experience, even if the user explicitly opted into hiding hints.
- hk__2 4mo ago
  > This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. I read this as "This means if you close your eyes you don’t see things, which is a bummer."
mikemcquaid 4mo ago
Yes this is intended. We skip those that seem to have already auto-updated underneath. Our code for this is not yet rock solid so please file issues for those you notice are not doing the right thing here.
pdntspa 4mo ago
This sort of overly eager upgrading has caused me a lot of problems over the years. I really wish it didn't default to updating the entire world just because you want to update one package.

perryprog 4mo ago

You need to set HOMEBREW_NO_UPGRADE_AUTO_UPDATES_CASKS to 1, as alluded to by a hint when it (first?) occurs. This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. See also: https://docs.brew.sh/FAQ#why-arent-some-apps-included-during-brew-upgrade https://docs.brew.sh/FAQ#why-arent-some-apps-included-during...

reaperducer 4mo ago
This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. When you instruct the system not to tell you things, the system not telling you those things is a bummer? If I could get more of the tech I interact with to stop doing things I didn't ask it to, it would reduce a lot of stress and wasted time.
- perryprog 4mo ago
  Ah, I suppose I did word that poorly—I more mean that a significant breaking change (Casks that previously were documented as being excluded from auto-updating suddenly being auto-updated) which can occur silently is a rough end-user experience, even if the user explicitly opted into hiding hints.
hk__2 4mo ago
> This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. I read this as "This means if you close your eyes you don’t see things, which is a bummer."

mikemcquaid 4mo ago

Yes this is intended. We skip those that seem to have already auto-updated underneath. Our code for this is not yet rock solid so please file issues for those you notice are not doing the right thing here.

pdntspa 4mo ago

This sort of overly eager upgrading has caused me a lot of problems over the years. I really wish it didn't default to updating the entire world just because you want to update one package.