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Sure, but nearly half the population of Canada west of Ontario is in BC (5.0M out of 11.8M west of Ontario), and 92% of BC's electric generation comes from hydr

Sure, but nearly half the population of Canada west of Ontario is in BC (5.0M out of 11.8M west of Ontario), and 92% of BC's electric generation comes from hydro (89%) and wind (3%). I like these numbers. https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/province-territory-energy-profiles/british-columbia.html https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/energy-markets/pr... The bulk of the rest of the west's population is Alberta and they generate most of their electricity from natural gas. That province is Canada's sore spot from an emissions and CO2 perspective.

cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
Right, I meant to call out BC as a relatively positive example but didn't. I agree they're doing the right moves for now. (I'm from Alberta originally, and fled during the Klein years. I have many ... sensitive ... spots about that place) That said... electricity generation aside... Massive LNG terminals on the BC coast aren't exactly a positive for the planet. In fact the approval of the first by the Trudeau gov't basically blew Canada's possibility of ever meeting its international climate commitments just on its own. Natural gas sucks.
- emptybits 4mo ago
  Yeah, I agree. We have a large and persuasive LNG industry influencing government policy. Not a lot of critical discussion is permitted because of the sheer money at stake. So many resource corporations, their employees, towns, and a heavily lobbied government don't want to sit and have a rational discussion about, oh, say, "How and when will we ween ourselves off LNG because we should?" :-|
  - cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
    I get the impression that BC is in a tough spot in that between the forestry/natural gas and speculative real estate "bread", there's not a lot of other meat & cheese in the economic sandwich. Not to say there isn't anything, but manufacturing, tech, and agriculture are proportionally smaller than in Ontario and Quebec. (Though I see more interesting tech positions in Van these days than I do around here in the GTA) Especially when it comes to economic development in Northern BC or even outside the lower mainland at all, it's difficult to walk away from extractive industries.
- 8note 4mo ago
  the leaks can be improved, but I'd rather have europe and east asia burn Canadian fossil fuels than middle east and Russian ones

cmrdporcupine 4mo ago

Right, I meant to call out BC as a relatively positive example but didn't. I agree they're doing the right moves for now. (I'm from Alberta originally, and fled during the Klein years. I have many ... sensitive ... spots about that place) That said... electricity generation aside... Massive LNG terminals on the BC coast aren't exactly a positive for the planet. In fact the approval of the first by the Trudeau gov't basically blew Canada's possibility of ever meeting its international climate commitments just on its own. Natural gas sucks.

emptybits 4mo ago
Yeah, I agree. We have a large and persuasive LNG industry influencing government policy. Not a lot of critical discussion is permitted because of the sheer money at stake. So many resource corporations, their employees, towns, and a heavily lobbied government don't want to sit and have a rational discussion about, oh, say, "How and when will we ween ourselves off LNG because we should?" :-|
- cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
  I get the impression that BC is in a tough spot in that between the forestry/natural gas and speculative real estate "bread", there's not a lot of other meat & cheese in the economic sandwich. Not to say there isn't anything, but manufacturing, tech, and agriculture are proportionally smaller than in Ontario and Quebec. (Though I see more interesting tech positions in Van these days than I do around here in the GTA) Especially when it comes to economic development in Northern BC or even outside the lower mainland at all, it's difficult to walk away from extractive industries.
8note 4mo ago
the leaks can be improved, but I'd rather have europe and east asia burn Canadian fossil fuels than middle east and Russian ones