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This idea is adorable, but ultimately untenable if either country drifts in its views on how its citizens should behave. I suspect that Canada isn't fond of ho

by zulux 4mo ago

This idea is adorable, but ultimately untenable if either country drifts in its views on how its citizens should behave. I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns, and I suspect that the US is not quite on board with blasphemy/hurty-words laws. I suspect the divergence will grow.

Forgeties79 4mo ago
Cultural differences are not why this happened. This is explicitly because of the trump administration and its draconian approach to immigration. This is a very symbolic and sad thing to see happen
jeromegv 4mo ago
This... has... nothing to do... with how the 2 countries view guns or blasphemy laws (??). This library worked well for a hundred of year, and then the US government decided they wanted to invade Canada, wage an economic war, and needed to protect their border at all cost in case an invasion of migrants would come from... that library.
- llm_nerd 4mo ago
  Kristi "Dog Killer" Noem did a little act in the library where she jumped between the American and Canadian sides, saying "51st state" every time she went to the Canadian side. Which is unbelievably pathetic: When you have to deploy rape tactics to try to get someone to join you (while simultaneously trying to convince everyone how wonderful and great you are) -- something many in this administration are very accustomed to -- how completely busted and pathetic is your country? This whole administration is just vile, and are long past the point where there should have been an uprising. Just an absolute idiocracy. A worldwide pariah, spiralling down the toilet.
skipants 4mo ago
> I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns I'm putting this into my overflowing bucket of internet comments that doesn't "get" Canadians. Sorry to be curt but, since Canada-USA relations has been more at the forefront, I've seen too many comments that just "don't get it" and it riles me up each time. They've had the 2nd amendment since their country was founded. It has no bearing on relations between the two countries, both at a micro and macro level. We respect that they are their own country and have their own ways of doing things, which isn't even the same across each state. We respect US sovereignty over their own laws. It's the lack of respect for ours by the current US administration that is upsetting. That's basically all its come down to. Oh, and the tariffs don't help either.
- selectodude 4mo ago
  Also the idea that Canada is in any way anti-gun is ludicrous.
  - wl 4mo ago
    With very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles. Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.
    - selectodude 4mo ago
      It doesn’t take too much effort to square the idea of being fine with firearms while not being a weapon-access absolutist. I’m able to have nuanced opinions about a lot of things that have negative externalities. Like how cigarettes kick ass but so do indoor smoking bans.
      - cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
        As an occasional pipe or cigar smoker... I'm personally trying to square this "cigarettes kick ass" thing with real world experience :-) Really? How?
        selectodude 4mo ago
        Simple. Cigarettes make you cool and hot, offering or bumming a light outside is instant chemistry to chat somebody up, and although I haven’t been a chronic smoker in probably a decade now, a drunk cig outside on a chilly night still hits like crack. It’s not the heater itself, it’s everything else about them that is 10/10.
        cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
        It's funny / overall-positive to compare how we seemingly see them to how my daughter's generation (18) sees them. In my 20s in the 90s despite being a mainly-non-smoker I felt/thought as you. That's not how my daughter or her peers think though.
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hilariously 4mo ago
Ultimately its one country unilaterally acted the fool and is reaping the rewards of that idiocy. Any other explanation of what's going on is either willfully blind or so uninformed that they should not share their ideas with others.
- cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
  My god, they want it so desperately to be something else they're willing to resort to complete misinformation. There's some bizarre pseudo-libertarian contingent out there that seems to genuinely believing that Canada is some place where we arrest people with Jordan Peterson books off the street and that the Ottawa "trucker" convoy was some sort of colour revolution brutally stamped out by a Communist Regime(tm). (When actually if said "truckers" had tried what they did on the US side of the border, DHS would have just shot them, and the vaccination law that they were supposedly protesting was a law demanded by the US and the Trudeau gov't tried multiple times to have it delayed/deferred)
haritha-j 4mo ago
Yeah, could be that, could be the open threat of invasion, I dunno.
1over137 4mo ago
Canada technically had a blasphemy law on the books until 2018, but it was basically gathering dust, the last conviction was in 1927.
- cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
  He's just dog-whistling some disinformation about Canada's hate speech laws. In my experience where I've made the mistake of actually engaging... It's usually about trans people and pronouns and some family court case in BC that they spread half-facts about, and so on.
  - Sanzig 4mo ago
    And Canada's hate speech laws are pretty reserved compared to some of their European counterparts. You pretty much have to be an actual goose-stepping Nazi or white robed Klansman to catch a charge.
sschueller 4mo ago
I don't agree with most of what Germany does and I am sure they are not very fond of our (Switzerland) "liberal" gun laws, yet I can just walk/drive or take a train across the border and no one gives 2 cents.
- yieldcrv 4mo ago
  Germans and your other neighbors call you guys weird, took me a while before I stopped by but for me - an American - Switzerland is perfect guns, jets, immigration sovereignty and a disinterest in peer pressure about it, similar combination of cultural influences, publicly traded central bank that just creates money and buys US tech stocks and produces dividends, ATMs that dispense $200, $500 and $1000 denominations and nobody batting an eye about it just some tweaks to life that stand out to me, all the other normal stuff is cool too only citizenship I would consider trying to marry into
  - pibaker 4mo ago
    >lauds a foreign country for being anti immigration >wants to immigrate there >not by making an economical case that having you in the country will make them richer >but by trying to marry a local Real talk. You may want to delete this post before you actually do the citizenship by marriage thing, buddy. Marrying for the express intent of obtaining citizenship is generally considered citizenship fraud.
    - yieldcrv 4mo ago
      one out of many possible interpretations, pound sand
cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
"Hurty-words" Remind me again -- which country is it that demands to see the content of your social media feeds at the border, and then chooses to deport (or worse, detain) you based on what your feed says about their president and his thieving gang of companions? Or detains and deports academics with green cards based on their stated opinions about what's happening in Gaza? I could go on.
- themaninthedark 4mo ago
  >A French-Palestinian member of the European Parliament says she was denied entry into Canada only days before she was scheduled to participate in conferences in Montreal. >Rima Hassan wrote online that she was "prevented" from coming to Canada in what she described as an attempt at censorship. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestine-european-parliament-member-rima-hassan-says-she-was-denied-entry-to-canada https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestin...
  - cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
    Yes, there's definitely bad on this side, too.

by zulux 4mo ago

Forgeties79 4mo ago

Cultural differences are not why this happened. This is explicitly because of the trump administration and its draconian approach to immigration. This is a very symbolic and sad thing to see happen

jeromegv 4mo ago

This... has... nothing to do... with how the 2 countries view guns or blasphemy laws (??). This library worked well for a hundred of year, and then the US government decided they wanted to invade Canada, wage an economic war, and needed to protect their border at all cost in case an invasion of migrants would come from... that library.

llm_nerd 4mo ago
Kristi "Dog Killer" Noem did a little act in the library where she jumped between the American and Canadian sides, saying "51st state" every time she went to the Canadian side. Which is unbelievably pathetic: When you have to deploy rape tactics to try to get someone to join you (while simultaneously trying to convince everyone how wonderful and great you are) -- something many in this administration are very accustomed to -- how completely busted and pathetic is your country? This whole administration is just vile, and are long past the point where there should have been an uprising. Just an absolute idiocracy. A worldwide pariah, spiralling down the toilet.

skipants 4mo ago

> I suspect that Canada isn't fond of how Americans view guns I'm putting this into my overflowing bucket of internet comments that doesn't "get" Canadians. Sorry to be curt but, since Canada-USA relations has been more at the forefront, I've seen too many comments that just "don't get it" and it riles me up each time. They've had the 2nd amendment since their country was founded. It has no bearing on relations between the two countries, both at a micro and macro level. We respect that they are their own country and have their own ways of doing things, which isn't even the same across each state. We respect US sovereignty over their own laws. It's the lack of respect for ours by the current US administration that is upsetting. That's basically all its come down to. Oh, and the tariffs don't help either.

selectodude 4mo ago
Also the idea that Canada is in any way anti-gun is ludicrous.
- wl 4mo ago
  With very few exceptions, you can’t acquire handguns in Canada anymore. They’ve also banned most semiautomatic rifles. Maybe Canadian public opinion isn’t anti-gun, but the current government seems to be.
  - selectodude 4mo ago
    It doesn’t take too much effort to square the idea of being fine with firearms while not being a weapon-access absolutist. I’m able to have nuanced opinions about a lot of things that have negative externalities. Like how cigarettes kick ass but so do indoor smoking bans.
    - cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
      As an occasional pipe or cigar smoker... I'm personally trying to square this "cigarettes kick ass" thing with real world experience :-) Really? How?
      - selectodude 4mo ago
        Simple. Cigarettes make you cool and hot, offering or bumming a light outside is instant chemistry to chat somebody up, and although I haven’t been a chronic smoker in probably a decade now, a drunk cig outside on a chilly night still hits like crack. It’s not the heater itself, it’s everything else about them that is 10/10.
        cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
        It's funny / overall-positive to compare how we seemingly see them to how my daughter's generation (18) sees them. In my 20s in the 90s despite being a mainly-non-smoker I felt/thought as you. That's not how my daughter or her peers think though.

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hilariously 4mo ago

Ultimately its one country unilaterally acted the fool and is reaping the rewards of that idiocy. Any other explanation of what's going on is either willfully blind or so uninformed that they should not share their ideas with others.

cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
My god, they want it so desperately to be something else they're willing to resort to complete misinformation. There's some bizarre pseudo-libertarian contingent out there that seems to genuinely believing that Canada is some place where we arrest people with Jordan Peterson books off the street and that the Ottawa "trucker" convoy was some sort of colour revolution brutally stamped out by a Communist Regime(tm). (When actually if said "truckers" had tried what they did on the US side of the border, DHS would have just shot them, and the vaccination law that they were supposedly protesting was a law demanded by the US and the Trudeau gov't tried multiple times to have it delayed/deferred)

haritha-j 4mo ago

Yeah, could be that, could be the open threat of invasion, I dunno.

1over137 4mo ago

Canada technically had a blasphemy law on the books until 2018, but it was basically gathering dust, the last conviction was in 1927.

cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
He's just dog-whistling some disinformation about Canada's hate speech laws. In my experience where I've made the mistake of actually engaging... It's usually about trans people and pronouns and some family court case in BC that they spread half-facts about, and so on.
- Sanzig 4mo ago
  And Canada's hate speech laws are pretty reserved compared to some of their European counterparts. You pretty much have to be an actual goose-stepping Nazi or white robed Klansman to catch a charge.

sschueller 4mo ago

I don't agree with most of what Germany does and I am sure they are not very fond of our (Switzerland) "liberal" gun laws, yet I can just walk/drive or take a train across the border and no one gives 2 cents.

yieldcrv 4mo ago
Germans and your other neighbors call you guys weird, took me a while before I stopped by but for me - an American - Switzerland is perfect guns, jets, immigration sovereignty and a disinterest in peer pressure about it, similar combination of cultural influences, publicly traded central bank that just creates money and buys US tech stocks and produces dividends, ATMs that dispense $200, $500 and $1000 denominations and nobody batting an eye about it just some tweaks to life that stand out to me, all the other normal stuff is cool too only citizenship I would consider trying to marry into
- pibaker 4mo ago
  >lauds a foreign country for being anti immigration >wants to immigrate there >not by making an economical case that having you in the country will make them richer >but by trying to marry a local Real talk. You may want to delete this post before you actually do the citizenship by marriage thing, buddy. Marrying for the express intent of obtaining citizenship is generally considered citizenship fraud.
  - yieldcrv 4mo ago
    one out of many possible interpretations, pound sand

cmrdporcupine 4mo ago

"Hurty-words" Remind me again -- which country is it that demands to see the content of your social media feeds at the border, and then chooses to deport (or worse, detain) you based on what your feed says about their president and his thieving gang of companions? Or detains and deports academics with green cards based on their stated opinions about what's happening in Gaza? I could go on.

themaninthedark 4mo ago
>A French-Palestinian member of the European Parliament says she was denied entry into Canada only days before she was scheduled to participate in conferences in Montreal. >Rima Hassan wrote online that she was "prevented" from coming to Canada in what she described as an attempt at censorship. https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestine-european-parliament-member-rima-hassan-says-she-was-denied-entry-to-canada https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2242739/pro-palestin...
- cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
  Yes, there's definitely bad on this side, too.