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More AI-generated code doesn't make your team faster. It might slow you
- quater321 4mo ago[dead]
- shaftoe 4mo agoThis is one sentence. Is this notable because AWS is commenting this?
- JimDabell 4mo agoIt’s a thread promoting an AWS podcast episode. The link is in a reply because X limits the reach of top-level posts that contain links. The X thread shouldn’t’ve been posted here. If the podcast episode is worthwhile, a link to that should’ve been posted.
- peterldowns 4mo agoYes, we know. Good teams increase the likelihood of success with AI code generation the same way they increased the likelihood of success during hypergrowth: better infra, better devops, better internal abstractions/frameworks/building-blocks/golden-path-tooling that make the "easiest" way the "best" way to do antyhing. Otherwise, you get bogged down in garbage and everything breaks and catches on fire forever. I'm a huge fan of Charity Majors and the quoted line in the next tweet in the thread is one of our team's rules, too: > Every AI output has to have a human owner. If you don't want your name on it, it's probably not good work.
- alik75 4mo ago[flagged]
- tonyoconnell 4mo agoHow did this get to the front page?
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- dude250711 4mo agoHa-ha, I got more: 'Skipping tests doesn't make your team faster. It might actually slow you down.' 'Developing without requirements doesn't make your team faster. It might actually slow you down.'
- xnx 4mo ago'Making your team faster doesn't make your team faster. It might actually slow you down.'
- woadwarrior01 4mo ago`Using AWS services doesn't save you money. It might actually lead to you burning more money.`
- ivanmontillam 4mo agoI did not realize it's possible that AI could engage with a project in such a way that Brooks' Law becomes applicable. Fascinating.
- simonw 4mo agoHah, this is pretty funny. The official AWS account posted a thread to promote their podcast interview with Charity Majors: https://art19.com/shows/aws-for-software-companies-podcast/episodes/59a5e52f-411e-4017-9bd9-6dc0b9aee027/embed?stretch=true&type=artwork https://art19.com/shows/aws-for-software-companies-podcast/e... But they forgot that users who are NOT signed into Twitter don't see threads at all, so it looks to anyone who's follows the link that they just took an official AWS position at odds with the entire industry that they're trying to make billions of dollars from. Here's the full text of that thread: > More AI-generated code doesn't make your team faster. It might actually slow you down. > The real bottleneck was never writing code. It's releasing it, debugging it, & keeping it running well. So when @Honeycombio CTO Charity Majors set a productivity target, she didn't chase 10x. She chose 2x, & built from there. > Her team also skipped the mandates & built a set of AI values instead: > "Every AI output has to have a human owner. If you don't want your name on it, it's probably not good work." > Quality first, quantity second. > Hear how @mipsytipsy built it on the AWS for Software Companies podcast.
- bluelightning2k 4mo agoNo. It makes you faster. You can prove it by looking at the lines of code. Source: Gary Tan, who can write more code than Jeff Dean and John Carmack. If you want to go really fast, you put a Ralph Wiggum dungeon. It's where you orchestrate a team of Ralph Wiggum loops together using subagents to win the economic Darwin Award which companies are handing out for who can burn the most tokens.
- ivanmontillam 4mo agoYou still need domain knowledge and a solid understanding of what you're doing/what you want to achieve. If you don't have that, now that writing code is basically zero-cost now (in terms of time), you'll still be slow.
- rcxdude 4mo agoI think they were being sarcastic.
- bluelightning2k 4mo agoYes. Sorry - my British sense of humor there!
- ivanmontillam 4mo agoYes! I had to search who Ralph Wiggum is, had I known I'd have undestood the humour hah! I thought he was some mad Karpathy-tier ML scientist or something.
- KyleTheDev 4mo agoHe is, in a way.
- deterministic 4mo agoFor the last 10+ years I have routinely auto generated 90+% of the code needed for my work using a custom code generator. Only the biz logic had to be coded by hand. That doesn't make me a super star or whatever. Just more efficient.
- lanycrost 4mo agoIt depends, depending on how you organize your knowledge base and overall learnings, etc.
- tyaka 4mo agoAs Mark Twain said, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.” It’s not the Myth of the Man-Month, but the Myth of the AI-Month.